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Basically there's two ways of doing digital filters. There are stable filters and unstable ones. Stable filters will never ever cause that kind of audio feedback, but use a ton more computations (SLOW). Unstable ones are more efficient (or alternatively sound better, as they can be made to more closely model nice sounding analog filters), but unfortunately can cause ear damaging noise. Generally you're okay with unstable filters so long as Q is fairly low. However high Q values can do 'interesting' (and painful) things. Like most things it's a trade off.
I seriously doubt that Amazing Noises are the only company to use unstable filters. So there are probably other synths that could do this if you were unlucky. Running everything through a limiter if you're using headphones/monitors is a REALLY good idea for most apps.
I would say incorporating some kind of limiter or audio protection into apps using unstable filters is a far better idea, rather than leaving it up to customers to find out they need to buy another app to do this after they've damaged their hearing. I wonder how many other users out there are unknowingly losing range from their hearing by using these apps.
@cian You may be right but that's not really the issue in my case with Apefilter. (I can't speak for monzo's case since I don't remember the exact cause).
The problem I have is with extreme full range noise that sometimes happens when adding the App to the Audiobus filter slot and also when switching presets to a lesser extent.
As I said before, this can actually completely crash/freeze Audiobus too.
To be fair it's not the only App I have that can be a bit fussy with Audiobus configuration, but it's the only one that has produced such extreme noise when things go awry.
Back on topic slightly, I'm loving Dedalus. It's capable of some lovely complex things, but also nice for more subtle treatments with gentle use of modulation/saturation. A very flexible device.
Bitwiz > Dedalus > Flux = Klang Machine 1.
@bonso would to hear your lovely complex things
you say that to all the girls.
lovely might be subjective but I can give you my rough recipe for complex.
I might commit some stuff to the interweb one day too.
I love Dedalus I think it's a great app and have added some great twists to my dull old beats. I just keep the volume turned waaasaay down low...
which is better for mangling dedalus or sparkle?
warm mangling that is.., not much into comb filters, metallic, or hi-resonance stuff.
I don't think either do warm, it's all hi-res glitchy scratching, but I find Dedalus the best for mangling. For three quid it's definitely worth buying to spice up your beats. I wasn't that impressed with Sparkle, it's all a bit of a random mush. Though to be fair, everything sounds like that since it blew up my ear.
Sparkle is badass. It's truly as powerful as what you feed it.. and after that only exponentially more so.
Monzo you saying sparkle blew your ear?
aleyas under the context that I asked what do you think of sparkle?
I've been using Dedalus to spice up vocal phrases.
Nothing too major or crazy - (I leave the sample value at the original 1) - but the stereo delays, distortion, filters etc... can all be tweaked to produce some nice effects quite quickly.
The slightly annoying thing is that you HAVE to loop the sample - you can't just play it once and then record the tail. I've ended up having to make a load of silence at the end of the sample in Hokusai before bringing it in.. which is a bit of a pain.
It would also be nice if you could trigger record only when you hit play. Can't see any way of doing this - so has to be trimmed again afterwards in Audioshare (and often split into 5 sec chunks). Then into Gadget (Bilbao). That's 4 different apps
... But such is life on iOS I guess.
@Matt_Fletcher_2000 Good points. Mister Dev?
Couldn't you play one-shots through Audioshare? I was having fun playing and pausing loops in it the other day.
@taroface. Nice idea.
Might mess with the Bpm sync on the delay though? Since I assume the delay sync starts when I hit the play button in dedalus, an if it's being fed in from audioshare then it wouldn't know 'the start'.
Or maybe I'm getting confused.
Hmm, there is no play button when you're getting sounds through AB. But I just tried running a break through it, and bpm sync seemed to work fine (i.e. have a consistent effect)? You could just press the Audioshare play button in the AB sidebar.
@kobamoto Sparkle is focused on being able to blend two different sounds together which really isn't the focus of Dedalus at all but you can apply grain effects to delays and apply feedback. With Sparkle you can for example take a drum beat and apply it to a vocal or vice versa.
I have found Sparkle so full of potential that my head has locked up and I have made almost no progress with it. Still excited by its possibilities and see it as something unto itself.
I must be missing something about Sparkle. Everything I've put in it sounds like a pile of dead leaves. All the presets and vids I've watched feel pretty similar to me as well...
Sparkle can require quite a bit of adjusting the controls to get the sound you want but I've found you can make a range of adjustments from ones that are close to the original to those that are radically different.
Yep, volume spike combined with the Q filter really hurt my right ear. Pain for a few days followed by muffled hearing and tinnitus. That's gone now but still muffled in that ear. Needs a limiter built in.
eww don't like the sound of that… no pun intended. I'm glad I found that out I will have to be careful if I purchase it, has the dev by any chance mentioned putting a limiter in the app?
No but they sell one separately. Seriously, be careful when using some of the more experimental apps with headphones as they can be very unpredictable volume-wise, and when you throw ultra high frequencies into the mix it's a recipe for trouble.
Great apps, but handle with care.
duly noted
What does the slider with the walking man on the left and the running man on the right mean in the first screen you see when you double-tap on a control? I can't see it in the manual or work out what it does?
it's to control how sensitive the slider is when you touch and move it, all the way to the left and you can make very small adjustments, quite a useful option especially on an ipad mini