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Hi, using bm2 for this one. Is it absolutely necessary to avoid the 'red' when mixing a track? Some parts of my track no matter how low I put them, somewhere along in the song it contributes to sending the needle past the danger zone. Alongside the original question, is there any tips or tricks to steam roll this pavement. Thanks

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  • Sounds like you need limiters. And yes, in the digital domain, red zone is distortion zone. and not the nice kind you get overdriving tubes either.

  • Dwarman is correct, though some meters indicate overload before it actually clips (because unlike analog, as he noted, digital distortion is pretty unpleasant unless you have a particular taste for that sort of think).

    I'd say if you hit the red a few times in a multitrack recording and don't hear the effects, don't sweat it.

    That said, just turn stuff down. :) You don't need super hot signals in digital land (vs tape when you where battling a fixed and higher noise threshold). With digital recordings you can always normalize afterward. Not to say you should have super lower level recordings—particularly at 16bit— but 'low' is relative; 50-60% on the meters is fine.

  • Thanks guys, only problem is bm2 has no limiter, so turning tracks down is the only only option

  • Try using a compressor if needed. You will get similar results, but first check your levels .if they always clip turn down the volume first...

  • For me usually it's the bass and kick drum hitting at the same time that causes peaks a couple of ways around this outside of what has been mentioned, if that is the cause, is to shift one or the other, use a compressor and side chain, usually you'll get the kick to duck the bass or just use automation to turn down the volume at specific points.

    Also anything with sharp transients hitting at the same time can cause clipping, like kick, snare, hats, certain percussive sounds, sibilance in vocals, anything that in an audio editor looks like a play button, ie a triangle on its side. But first try to isolate what is causing the problem if it only happens intermittently through the mix, solo each part around the trouble spots, see if it's as simple as the volume being higher in a certain place on an individual sound, if not use the mute button, mute the lower volume sounds out and see if it's just two or more sounds hitting at the same time, once you find the culprit you can decide which course of action to take.

    But like the others have said in digital you can make a song at really low volumes and then boost it up later so long as it sounds balanced, personally there is something wrong with my brain and it demands more power and higher volumes, especially when it comes to bass, even though it knows better, it's a fiend. Underneath is a side chaining video in bm2 but instead of using the kick to control the volume of a pad sound try it out on the bass, even if it's not that, it's a handy technique to know.

  • A compressor with a fast attack can work like a limiter. Put one or two of them on the master and set the ratio and thresholds very high—that way it doesn't really compress the mix (high threshold) but when peaks do come they get tampered down (high ratio).

  • Cool vid thanks guys

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