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Does your ipad ruin you for the desktop?

I got my mom's ipad 4 a month or so ago and cannot tolerate working on music at my PC anymore. This is a problem because it's a lot more convenient to use FL Studio/etc. & the software is generally more powerful. But something about the immediacy/tactile-ness of the ipad has sort of ruined me for my desktop, at least right now. Is this common with anyone else? Maybe I just need a better ergonomic setup, I don't know. But working at the computer feels like there's a few more panes of glass between me & it, or something.

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  • Yes. Got a brand new MacBook a few months ago for my daughter to use for school - I thought I'd dabble and got Reaper and a few free plugins - but I never use it. Love making music on iPad solely.

  • No way i do all my main stuff on PC, could never get rid of maschine, Live, twisted tools reaktor etc.

    I bought the iPad mainly to control some of this stuff, Lemur with some of the Reaktor templates is pretty cool but i hardly use it, more standalone but i just set up my laptop with my icm2+ to start doing some stuff with midi and sample/record from apps. :)

  • No, i just use booth. For me there is no perfect workflow with either. Together they are great. Still don't get why iOS is still so "seperated". It's all MUSIC!

  • I had a year of being all in on an iPad 4, but then I started missing the depth and quality of desktop music software. Now I have a deeper understanding of which environment will cover which need, and the new midi control through lightening cable capability has completely brought the two environments together to me for their strengths.

    I say enjoy the iOS honeymoon for as long as it lasts, but never stop looking at desktop apps so you can put what you have in proper perspective.

  • Yes, because I am a guitarist and $5 iPad apps sound better than $200 desktop ones.

  • @Matthew said:
    Yes, because I am a guitarist and $5 iPad apps sound better than $200 desktop ones.

    I agree. I don't use hardware pedals much anymore for my guitar. Sometimes my Boss gt-3. I have Reaper, and use it a bit. I'm a bit overwhelmed with all of the apps on my ipad at the moment. So, ipad isn't ruining Desk top for me, but probably consuming my time ATM.

  • I went from software to hardware to iPad, and now only use the computer for recording and editing, as it's easier for me to track everything and mix on the computer-there are some tasks where key commands and a mouse are more efficient. But as far as anything creative, I doubt I'll end up buying another computer.

  • iPad for everything these days. I don't even go to the desktop for those pesky forms that don't work quite right in WebKit.

  • Desktop: Video editing, batch processing, and some mixing and mastering.

    iPad: Composing and tracking

  • I did the iPad only thing for a good year and half, it's was definitely a lot of fun and I was impressed with what I could get done. These days I mainly use it for synths and just messing about with random music ideas when I'm travelling. As much as I liked the immediateness of the iPad for making music, sometimes the slower workflow (moving files between apps, tagging and transferring them to my website, gaining access to my sample library, etc) started to get to me.

    Still immensely powerful what can be done with an iOS device these days, but I appreciate it and the desktop for different strenths.

  • Logic on my MacBook Pro has had hardly any use since I discovered Audiobus a year or so ago.

    Nothing really to do with the UI, or even the apps as I could record direct into Logic. It's the convenience of being able to play and record from the comfort of my armchair.

  • Maybe it's because I'm new to iOS, but I find it to be in no way as easy to work with than the desktop music making setup I'm used to. iOS certainly has some unique features and apps, but (for me) it's less of a mature platform - more crashes and incompatibilities and a new version of the operating system seems to be able to really screw things up.
    So, yeah my iPad is great and things like Gadget, Flux and Bias are brilliant, it's more the DAW side of things I think I'II currently stick to on the Desktop - until the Ableton Live app is released :)

  • iOS is too limiting at this point. The anywhere, anytime aspect of it is what makes it attractive, but you'll just end up with a headache if you want to record multiple tracks in 24 bit and many instances of a plugin plus deep midi editing etc...

  • edited March 2015

    yes. here as well. i think its the combination between the portability and the touch screen that make it more enticing

  • edited March 2015

    iOS for "playing&making music". I bought 2xZoom R16 8Track-SD-Recorder, put all of my 16 direct outs into it and record there, no Fan no booting just Power ON and rockit, after copy into PC (Ableton Live) for Mixing and Mastering.

  • The main reason i couldn't do anymore iOS only music is the lack of some instruments and FX like a very very good reverb or really huge instruments like Omnisphere and full Alchemy (ouch) or a great sampler. With fast SSD's my MacBook Pro boots faster than my iPad Air. I also find that a lot things works better via trackpad/mouse or short-cuts like with a touch screen. MIDI and audio editing or fiddeling with small knobs is a pain for me with touch while some things are just amazing (Animoog f.e.).

    Then of course iOS 8 is still a pain and i think to wait a year to apple fix it is killing the thing for me too. Not sure what's coming with iOS 9 too. There are problems on OS X too for me but not so much.... and i could go back if i want.

    There are still some things i find better in iOS. Maybe with Auria Pro there would finally a "real" DAW on iOS but then i need more ram and faster cpu ;)

    For me also iOS music is nothing impressing or special anymore. It's just a common thing today.

    That all said it felt so nice a few years ago to create an whole album on an iPhone 4. Sometimes i miss this time. When i got my iPad i was just digging around instead of creating stuff. If all the remote apps would not be iPad only (that still sucks me a lot) i would get rid of my iPad and would use just my Macbook and an iPhone (then a bigger one).

    The most important thing is that we have fun creating music. I just can say stop digging around and buying apps. Create music and learn the things you have!!!

  • edited March 2015

    I never really like the mousing around so being able to control them via iOS devices means I'm willing to revisit incorporating them into my work flow. Being able to not be tied to my desktop meant I had more flexibility to setup my equipment with the iOS devices.

  • edited March 2015

    I can't maintain interest in a song long enough to reach 24 (or even 12) tracks, so the multitracking hasn't been an issue for me.

  • It certainly did for me, at first. I've recently come back around and use them in tandem now. Esp. with MusicIO and Midimux/Audiomux, there's great opportunity to use both in ideal ways.

  • edited March 2015

    @CalCutta said:
    It certainly did for me, at first. I've recently come back around and use them in tandem now. Esp. with MusicIO and Midimux/Audiomux, there's great opportunity to use both in ideal ways.

    This... these little apps bring back life to my iOS devices. My iPad is now a very versatile plug and play hardware synth and a great midi controller as well. I have to try to using iPhone, iPad and macbook all together connected. And all will get charged too (as long as i plug in the macbook via magsafe). It's a great combination!

  • Everyone has their perfectly reasonable & personal reasons for using one or the other (or some combination) but for me it's exclusively the iPhone. I may be a bit of a tech geek, but it still astounds me that I carry a portable music production studio around in my pocket that can do everything that I want it to do to date.

    While I can purchase peripherals to hook up and get more from the setup (although there's plenty of back & forth here about the advantages & disadvantages of some of those capabilities), for my basic needs I have no pressing reason for that - a good deal of my stuff is done on-the-fly, in my car or somewhere other than at home - in fact, everyone in my house uses the same 'puter, so keeping that utilitarian for all is a necessity. I've never had a DAW setup on any desktop I've ever owned (if anything, my art needs take precedence there) and this capability is, well... a godsend.

    I guess being a 'Trek' fan has always influenced my mindset about tech capabilities & the possibilities for miniaturization therein, so I've been beamed up.

  • The iPad has actually made me realize how good I had it on the desktop/laptop in terms of stability and sound quality of plug-ins. And I know I'm in a minority here, but I don't find using the surface of the iPad to be anymore or less inspirational than the mouse and keyboard. Neither offers hardware control, and we're still going with the same knob or fader emulation paradigm, so to me, it's about the same.

    I actually ended up setting my laptop back up last night after having lost faith (again) in using the iPad for music. I'm sure the cycle will clock back around again and I'll give it another go, but for right now, I've had it.

  • edited March 2015

    @Brain said:
    Everyone has their perfectly reasonable & personal reasons for using one or the other (or some combination) but for me it's exclusively the iPhone. I may be a bit of a tech geek, but it still astounds me that I carry a portable music production studio around in my pocket that can do everything that I want it to do to date.

    While I can purchase peripherals to hook up and get more from the setup (although there's plenty of back & forth here about the advantages & disadvantages of some of those capabilities), for my basic needs I have no pressing reason for that - a good deal of my stuff is done on-the-fly, in my car or somewhere other than at home - in fact, everyone in my house uses the same 'puter, so keeping that utilitarian for all is a necessity. I've never had a DAW setup on any desktop I've ever owned (if anything, my art needs take precedence there) and this capability is, well... a godsend.

    I guess being a 'Trek' fan has always influenced my mindset about tech capabilities & the possibilities for miniaturization therein, so I've been beamed up.

    Great one. I totally understand that since i loved so much doing whole tracks and more with just an iPhone 4. Sometimes i still wish i never had use iPad and desktop stuff and i would be still the mobile warrior i was :D

  • @papertiger said:
    And I know I'm in a minority here, but I don't find using the surface of the iPad to be anymore or less inspirational than the mouse and keyboard. Neither offers hardware control, and we're still going with the same knob or fader emulation paradigm, so to me, it's about the same.

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    Apart from a bit of sample scrubbing and xy pad fiddling I'd agree. In fact if it had a mouse port I'd plug one in.

  • Wait for the iPad pro with usb-c port.....

    I would prefer creating music with the minority report style thing. In 10 years.... sure!

  • I basically love neurotically tweaking until something clicks - I get a lot more success at this with my Volcas, LPD8 hooked up to Turnado, etc. There are a few iOS apps that really match a handful of knobs for me... Samplr, randomize in SeekBeats, Flux, Effectrix, the Klevgrand apps, Werkbench. I'm finally starting to grok Touchable and that may be the missing piece...

  • I went iPad only for about 6 months last year, but while it is powerful and portable it isn't quite there yet for my workflow and I have gone back to my hardware, my PC and Cubase for serious work. However, I have integrated the iPad into the studio set-up and am working on a 'best of both worlds' model . Using the iPad away from the studio to sketch out track structures, develop loops, design sounds and create samples that can be transferred into desktop projects and also hooking iPad synths into the studio as additional sound sources.

    Technology just provides an evolving toolset with the iPad being just another wrench in the box.

  • Nope.

    I use the ipad for rough sketches, then fairly early in the process export to the desktop for further sequencing, editing, mixing, mastering. A lot of times, I'll bring some audio back into the ipad for mangling (sector, samplr), then bring it back into the desktop.

  • Never did the desktop thing, so nothing to ruin for this Hoosier :)

    I'm doing all the things I want musically on the iPad and having a blast doing it.

  • Yes. I totally ditched my PC setup I'd been using since 1995 about 2 days after Audiobus was released. For me the apps are high value for the money, they interfaces are good enough, my recording are less noisy for less money, and the touchscreen instruments (ThumbJam) are a huge bonus. Maybe I just had a crappy PC set up before...

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