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...interesting update....
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At least they are doing some kind of update.
That's good news right there.
Say what?
looks like they are taking features from the akai 1.8 desktop software, I think it's called lazy chop
Can iMPC at least sync via IAA? Did they ever add MIDI Sync?
Do you think they'll actually fix any bugs or add AB integration - or just some fancy new features to put in a flashy sales video? /cynical
I think you meant
/realityas your closing tag there good Mr. Monzo./I think you're right
It's obvious, or seems to me anyway, that they've made a business decision not to support AB. Full stop. No longer need to hope for or discuss it. I think it's stinky balls but I think it'd be less stinky balls if they'd just come out and say it. Bonus points for stating exactly why. When developers get on this very forum and say might-be unpopular things but say them honestly it always feels like an all around win.
Did they say they were going to add support when it was first released? I can't remember now.
he is not using wej anymore
I'm actually looking forward to this update, just hope they manage to finally get core-audio working properly.
Support for import/export of sounds using iOS8 FilePicker would make things a lot easier too.
As for AudioBus, I'm more and more using IAA inside AudioShare to process and record my sounds and since most apps using up to date AB act as IAA-Generators the lack of AudioBus support is not really a show-stopper any more.
Now if we could 'crossbreed' iMPC Pro with Beathawk we'd have something to talk about
(I'm thinking like replace iMPC Pro 16-level Tune with the Piano-Keyboard from Beathawk).
Im looking forward to this update and the fact they're introducing the latest features from the desktop version is good.
I thought this was a spoof of retronyms video until 4/5 of the way through
It's an odd one. We are/this is the AB Sandbox and thus it's a little awkward as they have obviously taken the strategic decision to eschew AB. I think it's hapless and hopeless, but then I don't know how much time and money they've spent on Tabletop. Unless you're the only (or main) game in town anything that separates itself must also marginalize itself to some degree, but it's hard to hold one's breath and stamp feet intelligently unless you have access to their sales numbers/user profiles etc etc.
For a while I found myself in an 'us and them' mindset, but have realized that's silly. Just another tool in the shed and no doubt, for all of the disappointment about their updates/support/style, one that offers certain things that are there to be exploited by the woodsman/carpenter/gardener/twisted metaphor owner.
There are plenty of things they do in iMPC Pro that I wish others did.
Yawn, @JohnnyGoodyear nailing it again.
I agree with this post 100%
I've been using iMPC Pro a bit more lately. It's not perfect, but I like their sample chopping a lot. The GUI is very clean and sensible to me. I really wish it would not auto-correct if I suddenly find I want to add more chops, although that's more my own workflow clashing with the app's.
One feature I don't think this app gets enough credit for is having the best IAA-app menu. It's the clearest combination of name and app logo. I'm hoping of these IAA host apps eventually get a search function when choosing what app to load into it.
looks like they read your mind as if there latest feature is adding chops on the fly autocorrecting that would cancel it out. when it comes to R. Nyms it's a case of hate the player not the game.
what's the difference between the 16 levels and beat hawks pitched keys?
The "16 Level" feature of MPC's is a bit different in BeatHawk. With BeatHawk, you click a button that says "pitch" and then the last sample played is laid out across a chromatic keyboard layout. It gives you much more than just 16 different pitch iterations. I like that feature a lot.
^Yup. Definitely a tuned highlight etc.
@kobamoto The pitched keys in Beathawk are laid out like paino keys (2 octaves that are transposable) making it easy to play bass-lines or chords which i find a lot more intuitive to play than 16-level tuning in iMPC Pro where we can't even se what note is assigned to the pads. (See the attached picture).
JP from retronyms asked (In the thread in the Youtube clip) for music related apps the implement iOS8 Filepicker and Fileprovider extensions. Guess they have never heard of the amazing AudioShare...
To avoid AudioCopy I'm hoping they will add option for 'Open In...' and add iMPC Pro as helper app so we can open/send audio files from AudioShare or other apps in iMPC Pro...
There are many things to like about iMPC Pro but file/project handling is not one of them...
(Imagine if AudioShare had the sample-editor from AudioCopy, that would be sweet).
Agree with all the above
yep that would be sweet, funny thing is that the sample editor in the impc pro is identical just about with the exception of the 'loop' button in the audio copy sample editor....and for what?....
anyway, the pitch keyboard in beat hawk , does it still pitch things in the same way as 16 levels ie: chipmunk pitching, or does it do a different kind of pitching?
They seem to be deliberately ignoring Audioshare and Audiobus. When I upgrade my iPad I'll give it another shot though as I'll be able to use IAA at last.
@kobomote If you have 'stretch' enabled the length of the sample stays the same regardless of pitch, without 'stretch' the sample plays faster/slower when pitched up/down. It's not possible to 'tempo-sync' user-samples since there is no 'slice' feature to set the transient points on which tempo-sync is based on...
Retronyms owns Audiopaste, I'm not surprised there's no Audioshare integration. It would be nice for them to look past the competitive aspect and just integrate both, but I get it.
As far as Audiobus, no clue why they won't implement but with IAA it's still very usable to me.
and @kobamoto BeatHawk's pitching layout can definitely achieve the chipmunk effect
re:chipmunk effect, I thought that that was the only pitching available in beat hawk which for me wouldn't be enough to reinstall it back on my iPad but Samu pointed out that it does have stretch pitching, I was under the impression that the stretch pitching was only available for uvi's sound libraries, but if it works for user material as well that is definitely interesting...
While I'm glad to see that Retronyms hasn't totally abandoned iMPC Pro and overall think it is a good beatmaking program I can't help getting a little angry every time I use it because I know that it could be that much better if Retronyms did not impose those restrictions on it's features. Whomever at Akai that negotiated and administrered the contract with Retronyms totally dropped the ball. How do you pay a developer to create an app. based upon your flagship product yet allow them to impose restrictions that limit its effectiveness and to add further insult make it incompatible with the rest of your product line? Akai representatives don't like to discuss it and seem to have taken a complete hands-off approach. That's all well and good but at least have the balls to hold the contractor accountable to deliver the best product possible.
+1^ - while I get (but don't approve of) Retronyms wanting to exclude access to their competitors it's not their product. Akai need to grow a pair and start listening to their customers as at the end of the day their reputation is getting as mucky as the developers they've hired.
Still remains to be seen how good the 'sampler' in Auria Pro will be and if Steinberg will ever implement a proper built-in sampler in Cubasis and where is that rumoured update to Beatmaker 3???
We have so many tools available but non manage to nail it fully which is a little frustrating.
For now I do most of sampling/recording with AudioShare + IAA-Effects and sequence the samples in Caustic when needed and after that slap them into Cubasis where i also create 'freeze tracks' from IAA-synths since my iPad Mini has limited resources...