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Using Abu Dhabi

Peter321Peter321
in General App Discussion

Does anyone have any experience using Abu Dhabi in Korg Gadget?

I can't seem to figure out how the slicing works. If I paste in a particular one bar drum loop from beat hawk it fills up half the pads/slices, but if I then make a two bar version of the same loop, instead of filling all 16 pads/slices it does not???

and, while one 1-bar sample will map perfectly to the first 8 slices, another 1-bar loop does not fit and spans across all 16 slices.

I can't seem to figure out the logic here, and the Korg manual is useless with no real info.

Comments

  • RUST( i )KRUST( i )K

    I have Gadget and use it daily.

    One word solution

    Egoist

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000

    Ok. So first question is:

    • are both loops under 10 seconds (Abu's limit) long? (I assume they are else you'd have a very slow BPM).

    What you describe is very strange to be honest.

    Whenever I've tried, Abu always fills the entire slot with the entire audio file (as long as it's under 10 secs) and applies all 16 slices (almost always evenly spaced - but very occasionally it detects transients).

    You need to cut your loop perfectly to a bar or 2 bars first. That's important.

    If you could post up a screen grab or two I'd hope I could diagnose and fix the issue.

  • Peter321Peter321

    I think I may have figured it out, it seems Beat Hawk adds empty space after the loop when exporting :-(

    I'll try editing the loop I'm audioshare first and see if it goes better :-)

    Thanks.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Mixdown tail

  • supadomsupadom

    @Peter321 said:
    I think I may have figured it out, it seems Beat Hawk adds empty space after the loop when exporting :-(

    I'll try editing the loop I'm audioshare first and see if it goes better :-)

    Thanks.

    I remember impc pro did exact same thing. Did retronyms contribute to gadget's 'development' by any chance?

  • Peter321Peter321

    @supadom it's not gadget that's the problem, it's Beathavk that does not export a clean loop but included a mix down tail - which is OK I guess since the export function is on the song.

    It just confused me when I pasted it to Abu Dhabi, but taking it via AudioShare allowed me to see the tail and trim the file to the exact size (using AudioShare's snap to beat) and now it makes sense :-)

    I wish all apps just implemented AudioShare's SDK instead of AudioCopy - it's SOOOO much better.

  • Peter321Peter321
    edited March 2015

    So as @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said, Abu Dabi will fill the entire 16 slices with the loop, cut into 16 even pieces. So just make sure your audiofile only contains full bars and it should fit.

    I'm not sure it even detects transients, it seems the slices are always placed evenly apart, but I need to experiment more.

    I did however now experience the clicks I've read about, so let's hope the next update includes microfades between slices :-)

  • supadomsupadom

    Yes, sorry you're right. You could get away with setting slices manually therefore avoiding going through audioshare. I guess it is better to have a
    clean loop though.

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000

    @Peter321

    If you want to reduce clicks, do the following:

    • First try very slightly adjusting the slice markers on problem slices. The likelyhood is that you are catching a high volume point in the 'in' or the 'out' of the slice - if so, move carefully by a pixel or two to correct. (I wish you could zoom in but you can't).

    • If you still have issues go to the attack settings on all 16 slices (or problem ones) and edge up the attack a few pixels. This will create a micro fade in. Experiment with what sounds best.

    • If clicks are happening at the end of slices, go to the decay setting and take this down. But here you need to understand that the decay is fixed at an absolute 5 seconds. So if your slice is, say 1 second long, you need to take the decay right down to 1 fifth of its default for it to start having a fading out effect on your slice. You need to listen and experiment.

    This should at least improve most clicks. I have no problem with drum loops that are bang on in terms of 16ths. If you have swing on the imported drum loop you may need to adjust where hits aren't dead on the 16th. (Best to apply swing afterwards in Gadget and make sure the source has no swing if possible).

    For more fluid and loud melodic loops that don't have transients on the 16ths you might get some clicks. But see above.

    Have fun. It's a great tool once you master it.

    Ps - 99% of the time Abu doesn't detect transients, but on a couple of loops I have made it has. I know that sounds odd but it's true. I think they have an algorithm in there that simply fails to detect anything 99% of the time!

  • Peter321Peter321

    Thanks for your tips

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