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Filtatron - not dead yet - meet.... "Zetatron"! :-)
Hi all, I've been having some fun with Filtatron in the input slot, through audiobus into Audioshare (via MC Oscilloscope in the FX slot so I can see the waveforms as well as hear).
I've then been taking those snippets and cutting them right down in Audioshare to sub-second samples, and then importing them into Z3TA+ via iFunbox.
End result is some patches in Z3TA+. I created two patches from these samples using the 4 waveforms together - a pad and lead. The patches are almost identical except for the amp and filter curves.
In this quick'n'dirty demo track, the pad patch is run through some Crystalline and Altispace, and the lead patch more or less raw.
Recorded in Cubasis with some EQ, compression and stereo narrowing / widening.
I've included a link here to the most recent ones I did. You'll need to import the wav files into the Z3TA+ user wav area and the fxp patch files into the Z3TA+ user patch area. I've included pics to show where to do that as well. (You can also do an "open-in" for patches in Z3TA+ e.g. if you email them to yourself, but, unfortunately you can't do that with the wav files - at least, not that I've found, so, since you'll have to use iFunbox or equivalent anyway, might as well do both at the same time.)
OK. Here is a link to the dropbox dir with the goods:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qm0r2pxq5am4s9f/AAAFkEZKUmIojwWxaGKPIvk6a?dl=0
And here's a track made from both the pad and lead patch.
Anyhow - was a fun and useful and productive experiment in playing with both Filtatron and Z3TA+. Good 'ol Audiobus and the excellent Audioshare as team players in the pack too ;-)
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Very cool! You can get a cool sitar-type sound by playing around with the warp and twist controls too. I'm getting a lot of crackling on the audio running the patches on an iPad 4.
Good experiment. Interesting approach. The tune puts me in mind of the theme Darth Vadar might have had if he'd been a lead in Chariots of Fire.
It's high polyphony @Coloobar - you can reduce that - see if it helps (on the keyboard pull out - tap on the 8 to cycle), also reduce the Render Quality under options and High Precision. I created this on an iPad mini Retina (2) so it might tax a 4 a tad - but with those tweaks it should work fine I would think.
I was aiming at something bassy in the pad @JohnnyGoodyear. It's harder to do that with long samples because of all the additional harmonics. But, cutting the samples down is also tricky - if one wants to yet maintain something that has at least some semblance of the original waveform harmonics in too :-)
Still - as you say - an interesting experiment, and, putting Filtatron to work for me :-)
Have you been able to export your patches? Seems like that ability was lost in recent upgrade, I cannot get iPad patches out to use in my desktop version...
I've been using iFunbox for exporting too @JC_vt - haven't tried doing an export from Z3TA+ itself. I'll check at some point.
@MusicInclusive thanks for that post. It made me shovel some Filtraton snippets from Auria via GeneralPasteboard into Nave. Very beautiful wavetables! And useful sound as well.
@MusicInclusive Thanks, that is a good workaround.
Here's another one :-)
This time using iVCS3 into Tonestack for adding some more low end with the octavizer - checking the total result with MC Oscilloscope.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3jkvzrqfdpag709/ivcs3tsmod.wav?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qokplehcozlrve1/abell.fxp?dl=0
@MusicInclusive wonder what could be done using some of Animoog's timbres in Z3ta? On top of all of the stock ones, Adventure Kid has over 4,300 of them to experiment with:
http://animoog.org/database/timbres/
Might be worth a look. Thanks for the pointer @Coloobar. Have a look at the other Z3TA+ rocks thread going on at the moment; I downloaded some other Z3TA+ patches and loaded them which I mentioned there. Details there rather than repeating here.
Thanks for all these great tips and tutorials!
@Coloobar - I tried the Adventure Kid samples, but they are - for the most part - too complex for Z3TA+ - which prefers shorter waveforms. The Muz3um 2 samples are FAR better for that.
@MusicInclusive - the problem seems to be that Z3ta+ is expecting a single cycle waveform, but Animoog's waveforms are typically many more cycles. In order to be able to use them correctly in Z3ta you would need to trim each wav file down to just one cycle.
With Adventure Kid it looks like you can also get just the single cycle wav files here: http://www.adventurekid.se/akrt/waveforms/adventure-kid-waveforms/
The ones I linked you up with earlier were for animoog and contained 16 repeating cycles... Not what we want.
Also you can play with the adjustment knobs on the animoog timbres as they are to create an entirely new animal out of them.
Hmmm. Not even all the waves in Z3TA+ as standard are single cyle @Coloobar - it's just that shorter is preferable because the harmonics are fewer and the sounds more distinct as a result. I've had to work hard with the Filtatron, iVCS3 ones to shorten them (but I haven't shortened them all to single cycle because sometimes I desire that added complexity). I'll look at the single cycle ones by Adventure Kit though. Thanks.
Good catch @Coloobar - those single-cycle ones work much better with Z3TA+ ! Thanks.