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Medly music app(free and fun) (IAP's however)

Found this on the IPad musician Facebook page, which really is a very nice page I should say. I have not tried the IAP's yet but think I will give at least one a try today. It is a fun app but 500 Meg's or so so keep that in mind if you have space issues but It reminds me only remotely of creating in gadget. I am interested to see what new features it will get with updates. I do not think it is AB Compatible however.
Here is their page. http://medlylabs.com

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  • Looks a little Auxy-ish. Maybe somewhere in the middle? Anyone got a report?

  • iOS8 only :(

  • edited April 2015

    Lunch hour: Downloaded. Very simple. Not for 'us' (me) mostly. Allows (it seems) only export to 'video' .mp4. Can 'open in', but nothing shows up in AS. Perhaps you can rename, but why would you? Nice enough simple piano roll. Obviously hoping to sell packs of other sounds. If I own Auxy (or Gadget :) etc etc and see this take off, I will really a) be mad and b) feel I should be dumbing down my product....maybe there's more to come, or there's other fun/oddball things to do with this, but if feels like mostly not. 500 MB deleted. Back to work.

  • It needs work but it really works well, I'll see if we can talk the developer into climbing on board.

  • edited April 2015

    @Tritonman said:
    It needs work but it really works well, I'll see if we can talk the developer into climbing on board.

    You are a visionary thinker and make me feel like a fully paid-up curmudgeon :)

  • Hey I just made a quick loop and opened into Cubasis with no problems. Neat!

  • I like the way it sequences and now I can add effects

  • @Tritonman said:
    Hey I just made a quick loop and opened into Cubasis with no problems. Neat!

    Interesting. As audio or midi?

  • Hi, Basil here - one of the developers of Medly.

    Medly actually lets you export your projects as audio files, you just press the share button for the song you want to turn into audio, and swipe to the left (in the pop up) for more options. There you'll find it exports to Video, Audio and Medly File (so you can pass your project around) and you can send it to Camera Roll (Video only), email or app (which includes Dropbox).

    We've been working on Medly for the past year and a half, and have based on a prior app that lets you draw music. We definitely have more in the works, to make Medly the best app to create music.

    Would love to hear more of your feedback :)

  • @baldajan Hi Basil. Thanks for coming by, means a lot. Let me be positive and say that you have a very clean piano roll there :) No small thing. You're in a bit of crowded field (as you know :) and at this stage in the game I think some folks in forums like this are probably looking for something in a new writing/sequencing app that offers tools above and beyond what's already available.

    However, this IS a great place to get feedback and suggestions if you are intending to develop the functionality further.

    Your footprint (half a gig) is pretty big and as there aren't that many sound presets without IAPs I'm wondering if there's more here than meets the eye. If so, would love to hear from you. I did watch your video (and very nicely produced it is too), but it leads me to suspect that you may looking at the larger market which -hopefully for you :)- wants something simpler to work out ideas on.

    Just one fool's opinion, I'm sure others will chime in if they so choose etc.

  • Congrats on the release @baldajan

  • edited April 2015

    @JohnnyGoodyear thanks for the feedback :)

    We wanted Medly's 1.0 to be a simple piano roll, and for amateurs rather than pros; so we focused on what we can cut out, rather than what we can add in. We do think our 1.0 is a great base to work from to add more tools for better music authoring, while still keeping it simple. But as it currently stands, it has a great file management system (at least we think so :), instruments are awesome, and our technology is incredibly malleable.

    As to the footprint - with 78 instruments, we did try a fair bit to reduce the file size: most instruments are mono and sample count per instrument is minimized. We definitely want to reduce the footprint further, as we add more instruments. And also hope Apple makes the base iPad model have 32-64 GB standard (so we can worry less about footprint and more on making awesome tools).

  • Updated, and now universal. Checking it out for iPhone, no Audiobus or IAA, but can export audio to Audioshare and thus be used in AUM.

    Looks and feels like Auxy, but has the benefit of effects automation, which is a big benefit as far as I'm concerned.

  • Interested to see what they've done with this one....especially as we now live in AUM-world.

  • Funny that you mention Auxy, because we're more like Korg Gadget (rotated 90 degrees) than Auxy, though we did borrow some ideas from it. The biggest difference between us and Auxy is a timeline, you don't have to remake your song every time you want to hear it.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Interested to see what they've done with this one....especially as we now live in AUM-world.

    Doesn't appear to load into AB or AUM?

  • @baldajan said:
    Funny that you mention Auxy, because we're more like Korg Gadget (rotated 90 degrees) than Auxy, though we did borrow some ideas from it. The biggest difference between us and Auxy is a timeline, you don't have to remake your song every time you want to hear it.

    For me it was the color scheme that gave it away :wink:

  • @baldajan Appreciate your effort and you have some nice and simple tweaking available. It won't surprise you, here at the Audiobus Forum, to hear that there are many of us who would be a lot closer to ponying the ten bucks for your Band Pack if this was AB or at least IAA compatible. We like things that play well with others :)

    Am happy that it's easy to open files in AS, but -more immediately- would love an 'undo' button, Big fingers etc. Any plans?

  • @JohnnyGoodyear

    For Undo, you can already undo and redo using a two finger tap (undo) or a three finger tap (redo). But you can only use undo/redo when editing notes - I know that's not ideal; unfortunately, we didn't have time to refine it, but it is on our task list. You can find more tips at http://medlylabs.com/help or in the app (Albums Screen > M in the top left > Tips)

    For AB and IAA, we honestly don't have plans for them. We don't get that many requests to add support for them, and so we're inclined to focus our resources on other things, like better undo/redo :wink: or even MIDI export or Audio Track Export (exports each track as a separate audio file). Those two options are also far more flexible and includes more people than what AB or IAA support.

    We're just two guys after all. :smile:

  • edited March 2016

    @baldajan

    You must follow your market and if you keep it simple then you will have a simple market and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Auxy have followed the same route (to date), but do offer Midi options which widen the path (for those that want to take it). And, while you may have the Gadget blue in place, I think Auxy (in many obvious ways) is your closest comparison.

    I think at least being able to get the notes out for use with other sounds and effects would break this out of its box, but that's entirely a thing you have to decide upon with the resources to hand, especially if you only have four of them....

    To prove (to myself if no one else) that I'm not an utter curmudgeon I did buy your Band Pack in the spirit of sending you two cups of coffee (one each :)). Good luck.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear

    Thank you for your support! Every cup of coffee helps :smile: and FYI, I really appreciate your feedback and helps us get better.

    I also want to point out, yes, we are targeting the average user, but we 100% believe you should be to move your music around anywhere you'd like, because it's your music. Its just we find AB and IAA too limiting and too cumbersome to implement. This is why MIDI export was slated for 2.0, but we ran out of time. That said, it should be coming out over the next few weeks.

    Re Auxy v Korg comparison: there are a lot of things that sets Medly apart from Auxy, the timeline is the most impactful one, which makes us a composition tool, and them performance. We do go after the same target, but the Korg comparison was meant to address the compose v performance tool. But at the end if the day, both us and Auxy are music sequencers designed to be simple.

  • @baldajan
    There is lots of things to like in your approach, simplicity and ease of use are definitely there.
    I don't think this is a tool that necessarily need IAA or Audiobus as a priority to play with other apps but midi out would make this a different tool altogether. Not just midi export, but live midi out -- I think this would open it up for musicians and could be an IAP.

  • FWIW The only reason I kept Auxy around as long as I did was the MIDI export. As it is, now I have Gadget for the iPhone, it's gone, gone, gone. MIDI out is IMO a must for the phone. I'd never want to complete a track on phone. Eugh!

  • edited March 2016

    @baldajan -why pentatonic scales?

    It means that without going to chromatic which defeates the point of being able to choose a key I can't even make a hit record.

    Everyone knows there are only 4 chords in pop music.
    I V vi IV and you can't play the IV chord.

  • @BiancaNeve

    We actually support chromatic, just that pentatonic is the default. You can actually switch back and forth between pentatonic and chromatic. http://medlylabs.com/help#advanced-more-notes

    Giving a lot of scale choices (which we've done in the past) isn't actually a very good idea, because if you want to recreate a pop hit, you'll often go back to the chromatic scale because of a few missing notes.

    So what we tried to do is let you go back and forth between a simple, and complex version of the grid, without losing any notes in the transition.

  • @baldajan Don't s'pose there's any sekrit way to adjust volumes per instrument is there? Was just playing with the Rock Kit (some good stuff there), but to my ears the Tambourine -which I want to use- is way too loud. Yes I can fiddle with the linked-up volume line thingie (and that gives some interesting results), but also diminishes other sounds (bass drum) on the same beat. Yes I could also create a separate track with JUST the tambourine, but it would make life far easier if there were some kind of mixer hiding someplace....

  • @JohnnyGoodyear You can indeed change the volume of a note: http://medlylabs.com/help#advanced-volume

    Just tap and hold on a note to change it's volume. The default is normal (center), but you can make it louder or quieter. You can even do this change on a selection of lines :)

  • @baldajan Thank you Mister. Knew there had to be something.

    I have to say that there is a flexibility here that I'm really liking. We're always going on about flow and the intangibles that some apps have more than others and, within its 'genre' of app Medly has a lot going for it. Especially in the ability to easily replay the same pattern etc while you're working on it in a very easy and obvious way.

    Along with the volume, pitch, echo and filter tweaking I would also very much like reverb as well, but for now exporting to AS/AUM and using the files there with effects works. But that kind of request is small beer compared to being able to use this with IAA or AB. The arrival of AUM really makes this something that would be a great addition.

    I don't suppose there's any way to save/export my files as the midi notes?

    Make no mistake, requests only come from use and interest :) I look forward to your further development of Medly and to writing a complete song with it as well.

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