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I've now decided that I have to get a DAW for the iPad. Been hanging on for nanostudio 2 but doesn't appear to be any light in the tunnel yet?
Will the new Auria pro be a better option than cubase? Steinberg have a long experience in this field on PCs but haven't heard much about the iPad version.
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I upgraded from GarageBand to Auria a few weeks back and am pretty happy with it. Takes a bit of getting used to but the automation, editing and mixing controls are great.
It's hard to say what software that doesn't yet exist will be like, and by the time it does arrive there may well have been further upgrades to Cubasis who knows Nanostudio 2 or Beatmaker 3 may come out and be amazing.
I can only suggest you put it off as long as possible and then get the one that best suits your needs at the time.
I'm on the same boat: Think twice, buy once.
Easier to say it than to do it.
I love Auria as is. I've heard reports of a steep learning curve, but that doesn't reflect my experience. I skipped Garageband, have zero desktop DAW experience and went straight to Auria. Yet I know just about where everything is, just about what everything does (minus some of the mind-bending effects plugins like Saturn or WOW), and it has yet to let me down. Pro should be even more powerful.
Another vote for Auria. I only use Audio and not MIDI in my DAWs usually, so the current version is excellent for that. Can't imagine it gets any worse when the new version drops though
Oh dang it...I've been doing it backwards...think once, buy twice! Hence the huge number of apps on my iDevices.
With the prices of the DAWs on iPad, I'd just get one now that suits your needs. If MIDI matters (and I guess it does if you're coming from NanoStudio), maybe hedge a bit longer for Auria Pro to see if it will do what you need more than Cubasis. Beatmaker 2 is pretty inexpensive and does MIDI+Audio. It's clunky in many ways but it works.
Case of more wants more! I was happy with nanostudio until all these lovely synth apps started being produced. The whole creative process starts to get lost when you are constantly chopping and changing. Beat maker does the job but can't seem to get on with it?
Perhaps worth waiting to see what Auria pro brings as I want to focus on learning one app for a simplified workflow.
Buy twice think once is starting to get me into trouble! Lol :-)
Thank you for the advice gents :-)
I get the feeling when auria pro lands there might be some sales on some of the other ipad daws, but if you want to concentrate on one only, auria pro does indeed look fantastic, I use auria and I'm always happy with how great things sound when I import stuff into logic, with pro I'll do more stuff on device. I'd like to see the iaa list in pro updated as its chaos atm, also the plugin shoppe looks like surfing the web in the 90's, needs a lick of paint and vids.
:-) Well said @monzo. Glad you stuck with it!
If there's a learning curve for you, learn it. It will be worth it. Immediate gratification apps often have nothing after that. And buy auria now, every day you don't have it is another day you don't know how to use it. The pro version will be an IAP to auria if you already have it and Rim has said pricing will be fair, so nothing to lose right now. Pro is going to be a massive upgrade though. Beyond midi, the audio routing is getting some very incredible flexibility that is going to make it even better for mixing.
My son has Logic, I'm sometimes tempted to buy and Mac but I don't like pain!! ;-)
There are all sorts of ointments you can get if your tender, or just put an apple sticker on a pc, none will be the wiser.
Unless you want to use logic, then an apple sticker won't help. I've been exploring GarageBand on my Mac mini as of late and am surprised at how powerful it is. However, my main daw for recording and mixing on computer, Mac or PC, is reaper. For songwriting though, GarageBand iOS to GarageBand Mac has been surprisingly cool. My macbook is too old to run GarageBand x, which is much more powerful than the older version of GarageBand.
Still, I love mixing in auria and will love it more in auria pro.
Yeah I think I'm getting used to it now. The wave layout view sometimes goes a bit haywire when I'm scrolling around but I like the split/join etc. tools. I'm a bit of a fiddler when it comes to editing so it suits me fine. I'm pretty well setup now I've got the Tonestack motherlode so I really need to record something decent now!
Will Auria LE get a midi retrofit, or will this be limited to Auria Pro only?
Auria pro is the upgrade to auria that adds midi. Auria is an upgrade from LE. He hasn't mentioned if there will be a path to upgrade LE directly to pro as far as I know.
I don't think so. I think the current version of Auria LE will finish in the release of Auria Pro.
I had reaper on pc for a while, very good considering it's price and the attitude of the fairness policy by the developers was spot on. Got disallusioned by the work flow on the pc set up I had, by the time I'd turned it all on and set the external devices up I'd forgotten the idea! Lol
iPads have reached a point where they are becoming powerful enough on their own, just hoping Apple don't mess up with the OS.
It's looking very much like Nano2, BM3 and Auria will all be with us at pretty much the same time! Are they all waiting to see what the others do? ;-)
I think Auria is the big DAW on the block now, and if the others are waiting, it will benefit us consumers in the long run. I still think GB is a great starting point because it comes out the box with the basics done right. It's a bare bones DAW that comes with enough high quality sounds that you can get ideas down with, and not be hampered by the work flow. From my experience so far, anything between GB and Auria/Cubase is a waste of money. From there, for me, Auria gets the nudge over Cubase because of price, versatility, and functionality.
Take a detailed look at MultitrackStudio-
Completely forgotten about that! I will have a look at the reviews.
Well Nano2 is not exactly imminent it would seem. From the nano studio forum today
http://forums.blipinteractive.co.uk/node/10185#comment-30897
"Hmm honest answer about NS2? Well, it feels like I've been doing it for so long now that the concept of a release doesn't feel real in some ways! I've had ups, I've downs, I've had periods or high productivity and periods where I feel like I no longer care. I suppose it's probably very close to how it must feel writing a book.
I'm trying to build NS2 as a logical extension (feature / quality expansion) of NS1 but there's definitely a law somewhere that says the amount of work goes as a square or a cube when you do this, rather than linearly as you'd hope - it's probably written in some management textbook I'd never want to read!
I'd really really like to get it finished this year. I really really really wouldn't want it to go on for more than 12 months from now.
You now have the same written detail of my schedule as I do
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With the pro extension the features are well beyond the competition, even after the Auria upgrade
Littlewoodg which multitrack studio is it? Looked on the App Store, I used to have a free version of one with that name but none in there rings a bell.
Biancaneve, hadn't seen that! That changes things a lot.
It's MultitrackStudio, one word... you mentioned that a lot of chopping gets in the way of your creativity, so I recommend this too. The interface encourages you to just lay down tracks, even though all the editing flexibility is still there when you want it.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/multitrackstudio-for-ipad/id776998585?mt=8
http://www.multitrackstudio.com/ipad.php
Be sure to check out the Pro Extension on the Bremmers site
Auria le, upgraded to full, should be upgradeable to pro, according to threads on auria forum.
I figured as much, but I hope for an LE version of Pro, as I will never fill up 48 tracks in one of my pieces. I rarely go over 8-12.
I'll throw in another vote for MultiTrack Studio as my favorite "all-around" DAW on iPad. It isn't the best looking DAW, it doesn't have the bells and whistles of Auria, and I'm not sure it does MIDI "better" than Cubasis. But all you need to know is that people who own MTS in addition to some of the other solid DAW's will tell you they like it better, and I'm one of them. It just does everything so well and efficiently, and really has continued to expand an improve.
That being said, the new Auria does look pretty exciting.
Good to have you and your good sense back around these parts.