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Gadget Recording Question
Hi. When I'm recording a 4 bar pattern in Gadget, it doesn't record the first beat. Everything else in the pattern syncs up correctly. Thanks for your help.
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@mkell424 If you are recording in real time chances are that you hit the first note fractionally too early. I do it all the time, probably something to do with the anticipation.
Thanks I didn't know about that. Maybe my timing is off. I just started playing after a long hiatus. Everything since then has been entering notes in step sequencing.
Recording in Gadget throws up some weird issues at times. I recorded a lead line last night and on playback it sounded totally different. Thought I'd made an error so redid it. After four attempts it still sounded completely different so tonight I'll manually add the notes to the editor.
It can be a strange beastie.
Thanks for the reply. There seems to be a lot of timing issues in not just Gadget but in all of iOS. I don't know if there is some MIDI clock that can fix this. I've had problems with Audio Bus, IAA, etc.
Although sometimes I think the latency is between brain and fingers
@Jocphone I think I need some to replace some new wiring that I've lost over the years.
I set it up through MIDIflow and I got better results but in the end I just drew the first note in because the rest of the phrase was in time.
@mkell424 have tried rewiring my brain in younger times, didn't always end well
That is the quick way as it is only one note.
Don't know if this is related but after I set Audio-Latency to 'Faster' (Setings->Gadget) my timing improved a lot meaning less notes needed to be manually adjusted after recording, before i also missed to 'first note' on the first bar' when i tried to time it after count-down, after Latency adjustments no problems...
Btw. has anyone found a way to quantize notes in Gadget if they have been recorded with 'Grid Off'?? (Or without Quantize enabled).
Thanks for the tip about the settings adjustment. As far as quantizing notes are you talking about how you have flip up the Darwin panel so the Quanitize button appears?
@mkell424 I'm talking about the Quantize button left of the record button, it enables record-quantize, the quantise resulution is set under Function->Grid.
As far as I know there is no way to quantise after recording in Gadget. I wish there was an an option to use 'snap to grid' on a selection.
I usually turn off Quantize when recording automatisation of the Gadget knobs and if I forget to turn on quantise when recording notes it's manual adjustment or 're-record' with quantise on, can be an inspiration killer at times...
Haven't got Gadget with me at the moment but what happens if you switch quantize on, select all the notes and move them a little. Will that force them to snap to the grid?
@Jocphone If I do that the notes do not automatically 'snap to the grid' but retain their offset on the grid thus no quantizing takes place. (Meaning if the original note is a few ticks 'off the grid' and is moved with 'Quantize' enabled it will always be a little 'off the grid', with 'Quantize Off' it's freely moveable without snap).
If 'post record quantize' is needed it has to be done visually 'by hand' with the Quantize button disabled, so there is a need for 'Quantize/Snap Selection to Grid', guess Korg needs to leave a few things for V1.3
OK @Samu was just a guess but it does seem a minor shortcoming
When it comes to the UI, the Quantize value could be in a 'pop-up/icon' next to the Quantize button for quickly changing between say 1/8, 1/16 and 1/64, Triplets etc. instead of hiding in the function menu
Often find my first note in a four or eight bar sequence hidden at the end rather than at the start; came too soon etc.
I've always had this problem too in Gadget with the first beat not getting recorded when I record with a count-in. I will try to see what my latency setting is and if it can improve. It seems Gadget is very fidgety about it.
I'm guessin that with quantize on, if you play during the count-in, just before the first beat, that note is ignored, while it should instead be moved to beat 1.
I decided to register at the Korg forums and added a couple of questions hoping that they will some day get answered and implemented...
https://support.korguser.net/hc/communities/public/topics/200037165-KORG-Gadget-Community
As for recording, I agree this can be annoying especially when loop recording and trying to hit the note on the first beat just to realise it ends up at the end of the bar, guess I'm too trigger-happy
The same happens for me in Cubasis and Logic Pro X too, so it's not only Gadget...
I appreciate apps that capture whatever is currently playing when recording starts and adds it to the 1. I can't recall another app that doesn't at the moment but Gadget isn't alone—I've seen it plenty of times. Without a note-on message, it's hard for a sequencer to capture a note! A developer has to specifically add code to cover this scenario by either pre-capturing and truncating or listening for note-off messages without corresponding note-on messages and creating note-on messages for the user, adding them to the 1 (or the record start point). NanoStudio does the latter and it has definitely masked my apparent disregard for the 1 many many times.
I normally just let the recording roll and try to get the note in second time around. Otherwise just add it manually. I remember being puzzled by this back in the times I used reason.
In theory when quantising is off notes should record exactly as one plays them. More often then not machine's timing is better than ours, especially when played wit the onscreen keyboard.
Just registered there to support the Velocity/Modulation request. Korg apps need this, especially Gadget.
Unfortunately that forum is a bit of a ghost town. Wish Korg would chime in here every now and then. More interesting discussions and ideas/requests for their apps.
B-Step can delay the first step by 1/96, so that it sounds in Gadget the first time it's played (while Gadget's quantize function puts it back on the 1).
Does anyone know if it's possible to change the position of recorded sequences? I've got about 6 in my current song but need to change the arrangement...scared to try moving anything though as Gadget doesn't have a undo button...
@monzo Just press and hold on the box to the left containing the number and play button for a little while and the 'scene' (I think that's what they're called) becomes draggable. Has never gone wrong for me so I don't think you need to worry over this action.
Brilliant - thanks @Jocphone