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Proteus Soundfonts
Hi I thought I'd pass along some info. Timothy Schwartz was the producer of the samples for the Emulator 2 - 4, Proteus, and Ensoniq back when he worked for EMU. I actually got a chance to talk with him on the phone. He said back in the day it cost EMU millions to create the original samples (Virteouso was by itself over a million). He owns the copyright licenses and sells sounds through his business Digital Sound Factory. He also licensed other instruments like the Prophet.
He used the original ROMs to create the SoundFonts so they are the best out there. I decided to buy them because of their high quality and because I wouldn't be breaking any laws to use them. I also wanted to give him some support because he said people were pirating his work and putting it up on eBay.
He has a sale right now where you can get the Mega Pack with had Proteus 2000, Mo' Phatt, Planet Earth, Virteouso, Extreme Lead, and Vintage Pro modules. You can choose from SoundFont, Kontakt, and various EMU formats.
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@mkell424, thanks for mentioning this - I'm also a big fan of Tim's work, having bought nearly all of his soundfonts through Digital Sound Factory. Great to use with Multitrackstudio! I would also recommend his non-Proteus stuff, such as Studio Orchestra, Saint Thomas Strings, and Steinway Grand.
I think it would be well worth paying Timothy for his work. I came across some of these online. The programming of the Soundfonts was crap. I'd have to assume they were pirated.
To save some time for people like me who are new to loading Soundfonts in the bs-16i.
Thanks to Doug at the SoundTestRoom for the excellent video on YouTube.
After paying for them you get a link for the downloading a zip file for all of the sounds. You need to open in GoodReader to unzip the files. I bypassed the iPad and transferred the zip file to DropBox first to back them up, but you can directly to GoodReader.
Unzipping the files in GoodReader will create a new folder called E-MU Proteus SoundFont Pack where you will find the SoundsFonts organized by module.
From there click on the bank and select "open in another app" and select the bs-16i. That will put the in the Inbox in the bs-16i.
From there goto Setting and then Soundfont. Click on your the Inbox, pick your library and you are set to go!
You can also use them in your desktop DAW via http://www.tx16wx.com or http://www.plogue.com/products/sforzando/
You can open Soundfonts in the PCMSynth in Caustic. Unfortunately it only plays samples in mono (although Caustic is fully stereo otherwise) but the next update will bring stereo sampling and playback capability.
Ha, I had some of these to load into a Creative AWE 32, 15 or more years ago....
I wonder if we should pestered him with emails, to make a player with his sound for the iPad? Similar to Alchemy, or Synthmaster?
@studs1966 My points exactly, there is a market for classic boxes and I'd gladly part some cash to have these original (not 're-sampled/re-recorded') sounds available on my iPad.
Heck, I'd even part some cash for a beatboxes with 'original' ROM Samples and not the 're-sampled' stuff we have all over the place. Thinking of classic boxes like boxes like LM-1, Alesis HR-16a/b, SR-16 etc, and hello, where are Yamaha's original 'synth/drum apps? (RX-Line of beatboxes, and DX/XG/SY/CS line of Synths?).
Guess we'll have to wait and see what the future brings...
What's wrong with bs-16?
Haven't heard anything from the Caustic front. I like that app a lot. I wanted to use it live but the preset screen always closes up and its like a 3 step process to load up a preset. Otherwise for home recording it is awesome!
Will check out these Soundfonts. I received a lot off free ones from DSF covering some classic synths.. I really love how well they were recorded and programmed. Only thing is that for some reason, BS16i makes them distort as I play them. Can't figure it out.
@anickt said:
I agree! Just so you know the SoundsFonts for this Proteus pack were taken from the original ROMs.
@Musikman4Christ Yeah I've had soundfonts play nicely in bs16i and not play in MultitrackStudio, and vice-versa. I've been reporting my soundfont problems to the MTS dev, and he's been helping me out with some reproducible issues.
Maybe the bs16i dev is accessible as well and you could report the issues to him?
From what I've read, it looks like it's not so simple to actually be able to reproduce accurately a wide variety of soundfonts without some serious effort from the developer...
@mkell424 Jepp, noticed that when i read thru the description
But at $99 I'd love to have a stable 'App' to use the SoundFonts with...
BS-16i has been less than optimal way to handle larger SoundFonts. Now if Steinberg had a built in SoundFont player in Cubasis i would be all over this
As for the SoundFonts, The boxes where the samples come from were more than 'sample players' they had some form of synthesis and effects, some even had morphing filters. For these we need more than a 'SoundFont Player' to faithfully re-create the originals...
Agree with @Samu on the 'App' aspect. I can live with bs-16i or MTS to play these soundfonts and $99 is reasonable
for the fonts listed on the webpage. But as Samu points out, the EMU hardware itself provided some additional functionality that most soundfont players just do not have. Would be nice if Creative/EMU would create a Proteus player app along the lines of iM1, SoundCanvas, etc...
I am able to load 4 Proteus sounds into the bsi with Auxy without it crashing (Air 2). The file size for each of the sounds is not very large. I'm guessing this is because they are the original ROMS (not re sampled) and 20 years ago they would have to be small because of hardware limitations.
@mkell424 Is the Proteus SoundFonts just one huge file or is it split into one file per instrument?
(I've still little hesitant towards a purchase).
There's a free sample on the site.
I think the Kontakt version would add the functionality you described.
@Samu - As @mkell424 already pointed out, the individual files aren´t very large. The Proteus Pack (assuming it´s the same as I have) is split as follows:
Due to EMU´s hardware limitation, each sound bank (or file) has to be smaller than 32MB.
Per Tim Swartz:
"The Proteus Pack for Kontakt contains the original hardware ROM samples. We matched the Kontakt instruments as close as possible to the hardware using the Kontakt engine parameters. The only parameters missing are E-MU 14 pole filters and the arpegiator.
We set up the interface to allow users instant control over parameters and make changes on the fly! In other words, if you do not completely like the patch, turn the knobs and customize your own sounds.
Thanks for checking.
Best Regards,
Tim"
I took a screenshot of the Planet Earth module and of the first bank in the bsi. The first bank is the largest at 27 mb with almost 100 sounds.
If you create an account at the site you get an additional 20% off. $79.99. I got the sound font version. Would have preferred the Kontact format for the reasons Tim provided but since these are going on the iPad needed the sf2s. I am pleased with the value here since I paid much more for the hardware (still have my proteus, proteus2000 and virtuoso2000).
Nice to have access to these on a mobile platform:)
I conducted an experiment where I had 8 seperate tracks in Cubasis playing in an endless loop, each with with a different Proteus sound loaded in the bsi. It was on the bus with the audio coming into Cubasis on its' own track. It didn't crash and the CPU meter barely cracked a sweat.