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SYNTH APPS: Replaced any "OLD' FAITHFULS" with new APPS?
Due to the recent launch of new synth apps, I have found myself examining what synth apps are worth keeping on the IPad these days. It is a matter of real estate.
Do you find the sound quality of the some newer synth apps is way better than older ones? (Maybe it's just me)
For instance, I keep trying Thor the last couple days. It really doesn't sound as good to me as it used to? I know there are some Thor groupies on here, I am not knocking it. It just doesn't have the depth of some newer apps. This being compared to Cyclop, Synthmaster, and Korg M1.
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If this is the case. Are companies going to update and upgrade the older apps to higher sound quality or will the older apps be retired to the data heap of history? Next to the Atari and TRS-80?
Comments
I agree with you on Thor sounding weak. It's an old Reason synth. I was a Reason user back when Thor came out. I always thought Reason in general sounded weak compared to Logic plug ins back then.
I'm not sure you can compare Thor to Cyclop, Synthmaster, and Korg iM1 - they're different things for different parties. I use Thor as my 'go to' synth because it's easy to fiddle with, Cyclop I don't have but want and will use it for noise/experimental fests, Synthmaster - dunno, and Korg iM1 for workman-like keyboard sounds on the rare occasion I'm doing something sensible.
Different things, and you'll use them in different situations. So they're different really.
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Not the sounds they make.
The sound quality. D
Depth, loudness, and stereo.
Overall "umf".
My favorite "umf" synths are: Animoog, Tera Synth, iMini, iSem, Nave, and Magellian. Also the ones you mentioned.
Sunrise still amazes me every time I use it.
The effect-section in Thor is rather weak but the synth comes alive when fed thru fx apps.
As far as SynthMaster in concerned, sure some sounds are good but I generally do not like 'preset-players'.
The sound quality. D
Depth, loudness, and stereo.
Overall "umf".
As Robert Pirsig might say - define quality? I think Thor can be coaxed to provide plenty of 'umf' if you play with it's buttons nicely, even more if you route it through something like Tonestack.
As I said they're different tools for different times. Cyclop has more 'grunt' than Thor, generally speaking, as that's what it's made for but Thor is probably going to provide more day to day sounds for most users - where 'umf' might not always be a requirement. And if you're using a sample based 'synth' then the sounds will already be processed so may have more or less 'umf' than their analogue style counterparts.
I don't have a problem with the sounds I get from Thor, and I wouldn't agree they're of less quality than those produced by Tera Synth, iMini or Magellian. They're just different.
Some of the bass patches in Thor are great I think. Definitely provides as much "umf" as synths like iM1 and Cyclops IMO...
In fact if anything I think iM1 sounds pretty weak if you take the effects off... But that's to be expected since the samples it uses are so small and basic.
I don't know what "umf" means or how to measure which app has more depth or stereo or what it would mean. Thor is loud enough I don't need it to be any louder. I prefer Thor to Cyclop or iM1 for synth sounds. I don't have Synthmaster and as long as it's a preset player I'm not interested. SampleTank sounds better than iM1.
This weekend, I pulled my old Vader-edition 2600 out of the closet with my copy of SynthCart.. Fun times.
I took it as 'oomph', meaning grunt, welly or elbow juice. Like you say I've never thought Thor lacked any of these things. Particularly welly, it's my go-to tool for anything requiring waders.
What.. You dont' like me?
;-)
Apples, oranges, cranberries, bananas, guavas, lingonberries, grapes and lemons. With the exception of the fear The Alchemy Example (early nineties shoe-botherers) gave us, the lovely thing is take em off, put em back on again...
I generally do not like 'preset- Synthmaster is the exception to the rule for me.
Sunrizer -- agree 100%
I can't get over some of the great key sounds it has in addition to the harder edge stuff
I never get tired of Sunrizer or Magellan, someone here suggested both to me and I sure am glad that they did!
I keep intending on spending a day with Sunrizer. I think it's the interface that makes me hesitate. Good sounds though. Actually all of these synths are great, It's up to the talents of the user to create useable patches for whatever genre we are writing for. I just like playing live though.
Have you ever figured out how to run another synth thru the sequencer?
Are you guys trying to tell me I need Sunrizer now? ：）
I really hope 'SynthMaster' evolves on the iPad and gets full patch editing...
SynthMaster also feels like a 'buggy mess' some patches that seem to offer adjustment of for example EnvAttack but tweaking it has no effect, same goes for many other parameters. (Did they have a lazy and lousy bunch doing the beta-testing?). In other patches the 'EnvRelease' controls the sustain level, arrghhhh....
I'll keep synth master on my iPad but it really needs an overhaul on the UI (what's up with the huge volume-knob and why are the patch select arrows so damed small and unresponsive, need to tap 2-3 times to get them responding, the virtual pitch & mod wheels are so thin it's easy to accidentally use both) and bug-fixing for the editable patch parameters...
Some sounds are great, no question about it... But on the iPad it's 'over hyped'.
I need to update my sound design slang vocabulary.
Thor and Sunrizer both do fantastic strings.
Or simply make it up, as I do.
hehe... I almost started googling those things.
I'm thinking of losing some Synths now and keeping my favorite flavors too, now that I have so many on my IPad. iM1, Synthmaster, iLectric, Sampletank, Module, Gadget, iGrand are keepers. Some I'll keep on the front page forever, because they are essential for me: Sunrizer, Audiobus, ThumbJam, SoundPrismPro, my DAW. I could now leave apps like Thor, Magellan, Nave, and Cassini on the Cloud for when I need them. I feel like a Car collector, I can't drive them all, some have to go in storage!
You need Sunrizer now.
You knew when you asked, am I right?
Some would say of the Beepstreet apps, all of which are must-haves, Sunrizer is the must-haviest.
It's the last synth on my wishlist. I was waiting for a sale, but it doesn't look like that will happen ...
If you are a delayed-gratification type, make it last. I bought it on iPhone iPad and VST, and wish I could buy it again, but thats me
My finger is getting pretty itchy. I'll probably just pull the trigger.
Sunrizer and magellan both sound great.