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Synthmaster - controversial
Ok this is bugging me - I bought it , downloaded the pro iap and find it well meh! What am I missing? I have Nave, sunrises, ivcs3, alchemy and isem etc and dig them but not Synthmaster...
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The whole hype around SynthMaster Player is a big meh!!!????
It might be good if they some day give us full editing capabilities and fix the numerous amazingly irritating bugs that can drive one nuts, like some of the adjustable parameters don't even adjust the parameter they are supposed to adjust?!?!?!?!
For preset players who wan't to sound like just about everyone else and love to pay for presets it's a goldmine...
Maybe, @Jose_Bee, you simply aren't as impressed with the way Synthmaster sounds compared to the other synths. I'm not being glib- I just think it's a matter of personal preference or taste, nothing more. I grabbed iM1 and Sythmaster at about the same time- I generally love Korg's stuff, but for me, Synthmaster's presets are "cooler" than iM1's. Because of my pro-Korg bias, I had a tough time admitting it to myself at first, but it's the truth. In the end, I think we like what we like because we like it- and even that can change.
I personally had high expectations with SM. IMHO, it delivers sonically.
But I think the player needs further tweaking as it eats CPU resources like a beast.
The UI needs to be redesigned. Fonts made bigger for was of live use. As is, I could not play it live especially if its going to choke up on me in the middle of a performance. For now, I use it for tracking ,but sparingly to concerve resources. Still I go to my workhorse, ZT3A for live playing.
But, we need to give the developers a chance as some of them have full time jobs and are not deep pocketed as Korg, Roland etc....
Don't sweat it. The more different sounds I have, the more I think it about what you do with them than the sounds themselves. So find something that inspires you and that you like to work with, and if that isn't flavour of the month with others, its no big deal. Maybe your songs will be next month's big thing!
Has anyone heard anything from the Synthmaster folks re: the recent disappearing sound issue when played through a sequencer - like some of us have seen with StepPolyArp?
No, but I'd certainly like to....
Same here... I had planned to get the Jarre and TG packs, but after listening to the demos a couple of times I'm in less of a hurry. Some of this is just bad luck, coming out with iM1, and some of it's the stumble with iOS 7.
I bought it + 4 soundpacks. It sounds great but I agree with the Jose_bee. The UI is crap.
I think the overall ipad music scene sometimes has a blurred vision on some apps. Some apps after some time out seem to be useless because bugs, bad UI etc.
So a topic like this ain't so bad. But... as long as the apps are cheap as they are is it allowed to complain?
There's (broadly speaking) 2 types of synth customers: preset cruisers and tweakers. The former will mostly dribble here the latter will be always dissatisfied.
Having said all that. The hidden preset cruiser in me much prefers cruising presets in ISem than Synthmaster.
I guess I show my background when I say Tweaker only means 1 thing..................................
Her name is Miss Tina if you're nasty.
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I think you are right 100% in 1 respect.
The hype. That was PRECEEDING people actually having it.
It was a brilliant pre-release build up market saturation and anticipation. I would be hard pressed to find anyone "happy" with it.
I was a huge proponent during the hype. Who would have imagined such a tragic launch, no real parameter adjustments, and more bugs than a Taco Bell bathroom?
To be fair in my analysis, I bought 9 packs from various series. So, I dropped about $60 on sound packs.
I do think the sounds and quality are some of the best I have seen. That being said, most in the purchase preset state they are locked in are really limited. As mentioned, the only way to deal with this is a sequencer. This is hindered by S-masters challenges in using with a variety of sequencer apps. On top of that the user interface and menu are so antiquated - it makes me wonder why this was rushed to market as its present state.
I never had the VST, so I am not sure what deviation from that UI is apparent. Maybe this is just Synthmaster Maybe it is the IOS version. I don't know
I really need an app with these sounds. It is missing for me in what I do. I just don't think I can use this app in its present form for true productivity for the duration,
"...and more bugs than a Taco Bell bathroom?"
Lol! Me, I'm glad I only spent $20 on it. I've wasted money on far worse.
I agree that the UI is out from hell
But the desktop UI is not better so it fits 
Alchemy is still so much better (UI and sound) in any possible way.
I have both iM1 and SM. I think they both have their place in my music-making world. (Along with all the other synths I have LOL). I can put up with the interface and other minor issues in SM because I do like the way it sounds. However, a bug like shutting the sound down when driven by a sequencer and/or in the background is unacceptable and they need to deal with that right away.
If I had to pick 1 and only 1 app.
Alchemy. No doubt.
I am looking to figure out how to export my preset library for Alchemy here on forum. I just need to figure out how.
Virsyn ARP app works great on Synthmaster.
Korg's new one is great. I just don't know if it is great as in great or great because I have a new real synth in Gadget.
Either way awesome.
I like a "synth" app that I can put a song together with that app alone. Multiple parts and instruments from 1 app.
I is nice for getting a groove going without being distracted by navigating apps and settings.
Not quite always
Only when things crash.
@RustiK
I have the Virsyn arp and like it very much. I haven't tried it with SM recently. You don't get the sound shutting down with it running SM? That's weird because several posters have mentioned issues with driving SM from sequencers and arps like my issue with StepPolyArp.
I was disappointed that iM1 doesn't have the M1 sequencer. I had a hardware M1 and did a lot of sketches and full songs with the M1 alone. If I remember correctly, the M1 had a main stereo output plus two aux outputs which gave it a lot more flexibility between the internal FX and the ability to use external FX on the aux outputs.
Any tweaking is good if it gets you where you want to be.
Seems like the letdown is an inevitable part of the addictive cycle. A preset player with 800 presets for $5 is what it was before it came out, and that's what it still is. The sounds are far from meh...
Yup. +1
Absolutely. Here is the wheat in my chaff.
It works fine. I did have it lose sound 1 time. But, I made a track exclusively S-Master with multiple Virsyn tracks on Cubasis this am. No issues.
All and all the sounds of the Sythmaster are some the best sounds I have found for the music I do.
For me, it is all about the knobs and buttons at this point.
The sounds top notch - processed beautifully and of high quality.
I am finding ways with sampling, BPM, and Turnado to be able to get the desired sounds and parameters I want. It just takes a while. Of course it would be easier to do with some MIDI learned controls and features.
Maybe that shall come. Hopefully.
You make a good point about preset cruisers and tweakers. I've been out of the game for a while and now I'm getting back into tweaking. Like people have said on this forum the value of a synth is how deep you can go. I've learning a lot from reading people discussions.
Then sign me up for the Lady Gaga packs!
Oh Contraire
In the end it gets you exactly where you would NEVER want to be! LOL
@RustiK Synthmaster already has MIDI learn.
I am generally a tweaker but often run through presets to see if I can find something close to what I want and tweak it to shape. Of course the real tweakers think of a sound, load the init patch and get to work. I wish I was one of them but even if I was, what a bloody waste of time (form my perspective at least).
Having said all that I'm often finding myself sampling a run of a min pentatonic of a chosen synth and audio pasting it to samplr for some arpeggio action. But that's just pure rompler fun.
I really did not understand the excitement a lot of people had over this app. It's a player and not really a fully functional synth..
The amount of synths available already are legion, and many of them are gorgeously designed, but synthmaster has the worst synth UI I've ever seen in the appstore for an app that sounds good.
For someone to release an app that sounds great, but has limited facility for actual creation, yet spend hardly any time on the UI, is kind of insulting if they want to sell IAPs.
Sure, some may find the sounds useful, but the app distracts from the process of actually creating such sounds ourselves from an init patch. Or tweak presets in another synth.
The sounds this app offers can easily be crafted from the likes on Nave, Wavegenerator, Wavemapper, some of the Virsyn synths..so what is the point of buying iap from a plug and play synth?
I downloaded it out of curiosity and deleted it after five minutes. I have no use for it basically. Good sounds, but if I'm to spend some time with the app, I'm gonna want to try out things, expand on concepts or create my own. Even if it were an actual synth proper and not a player, I would still not have bought it cause the UI is such a fail.
The game is really high now synthwise, so why release stuff like this? I think the hype they created work and I'll bet your bottom dollar that this app will not be supports by the devs for years to come..
Sorry to be blunt, but this app reminds me of caustic as far as the UI goes. Caustic can do good stuff but the UI and sound engine are nothing compared to gadget.
Developers need to bring new ideas to the table in order to justify our investments, and closely study already existing apps..