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Syntorial - New App for iPad, VST for PC and Mac - all in one package
New app release for learning how to programme synths. Very comprehensive with videos, photos and challenges. Free app for the first 22 lessons then IAPs: Syntorial by Audible Genius
https://appsto.re/gb/4Sic5.i
BTW, IAPs for an eye-watering £99
The free version tells me this is very very good but the IAP seems too expensive although you do get a VST plugin as well as an included synth to use and sync across your iPad and PC or Mac.
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It is cheaper to get full upgrade from their website directly by buying desktop version http://ipadmusic.com/blog/2015/06/23/syntorial-comes-to-ios/
Especially before the $89 U.S. upgrade ends this Friday. The IAP is $129 (regular price). I'd been looking forward to using my iTunes card I'd bought at a 30% discount on the IAP to beat the "desktop" upgrade approach.
But for now, until Friday, the sale price through the site is the way to go. http://www.syntorial.com
When the upgrade goes back to the regular price, the cheapest way to upgrade syntorial will be with discounted iTunes cards.
Rather blow a hundred bucks on a shitload of apps than actually learn to use any of 'em. Laissez les bon temps rouler!
I'll wait for the going out of business sale. Thanks.
Hehe, LOL! I will wait for the business sale out of the going out to extend yours.
US$30 can makes this sale booming I think!
This is just what the doctor ordered. I only know a little about subtractive synthesis. Thanks for posting!
I hear ya! Who needs to do things "properly", anyway?
Thought everybody would be clued up with the recent free 30 day Groove3 pass.
What a nice sounding nice looking fully featured free synth, I thought Nanolouge was generous(and it is).
And the courseware is great. My background is piano and percussion... and electronics, but going through these tutorials is really a fun way to systematically identify how sounds are made, especially the give and take between specific parameters.
Wow, first time an iOS app costs more than the desktop brother! In general i think it's a great thing but too expensive for a course and when i got it right it's mostly only about subtractive synthesis (the most easy synthesis i would say).
I bought Syntorial this morning after a very productive learning session on the train yesterday. The much praised Sound on Sound series of articles about synthesis is so theoretical and complex, and so Syntorial's ear training approach is an ideal marriage. It's two ways of getting to the same result - mastery of subtractive synthesis - if you will. I'm only on the fourth set of lessons and already I'm listening out for things I would never have thought of.
When it comes to deconstructing my favourite patches from various synths and figuring out exactly what makes them tick in order to program my own complex sounds, I think that Syntorial will be giving me an invaluable new set of skills.
I'm in, downloading all lesson packs now. I think Syntorial can teach an old dog new tricks plus lots of Z3TA coverage.
Current offer through Syntorial website is £58 in UK.
I'm now tempted as I think this is what learning is all about. I like to know what I'm doing as opposed to just turning knobs left, right and centre. As a guitarist, this might just push me further into more in-depth exploring of all the myriad of software synths that I own.
Great feedback BTW @ Michael_R_Grant
Syntorial and Synth Secrets (the Sound on Sound series) complement each other very well. It's like a physics class -- you have Professor Ried giving the theoretical lecture on how waveforms and phase interference works, and Joe the TA hosting the practical lab showing how to tear stuff up. It's great.
Just my two cents/pence on this. I've only done the first few lessons but it is more than worth the asking price. Yes, you probably could find a whole load of youtube videos that teach the same thing, but not with the same interactivity and feedback you get with this program. had my doubts at first, but consider my ear far more trained now than it ever was before!
Very useful, absolutely! But only to a certain stand point! That is why the price should go very low to make more acceptible! I would say US$ 30 reasonable for me!
There are 199 lessons. The amount of content is pretty massive, plus then you have the videos for Z3ta and the Minimoog. While I would obviously like it to be cheaper, the price doesn't seem unreasonable for the amount of content and the ambition of the program. There's nothing else like this out there, and it works wonderfully on the iPad. Just did some lessons in my lunch hour and have broken through the demo lessons. On to the paid-for content now, so I will let you all know whether the standard holds up and whether the group challenges get too difficult.
The main thing I'm having trouble with is distinguishing between a saw wave and a medium pulse wave in a patch. They sound pretty similar, so my ears need to do some more training!
I think it's a pertty good learning tool. However as I already have the basics down and it is rather expensive I'm gonna pass. For me the challenge comes in more complex sound design, routing and modulation.
If you can find a tutor who would go through this much information with the same depth for $30, I'm all ears.
Personally, I don't think it should have iap at all. Should be a companion / advert for the main app so there's no confusion. I can see how paying 'real money' for something to run on people's $700 hardware must be upsetting, though.
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Hi, Duncanm
You never know how to price this product, globally! Even the developer will not know how to price this product! The problem is how to statistically and strategically offer this service to benefit the developer! Maybe US $10 will make fortune. So don't feel bothered! Marginal utility and econimical scale is pretty hard thing to judge, So feel free to let it be!
Yeah, I hear that a lot when it comes to ios apps especially...
You never forget that there is intrinsic value and brand name value to the developer! Maybe the worthness is not just the product, but the future value of developer's name! So not everything can be value in terms of money.
You must be hella fun when you go down the shops. 'Sir, I would buy your milk, but your brand name is unknown to me! were you to, for instance, sell it to me for 10 pence, then your brand awareness would be through the roof!' (ps I am a cheapskate)
I love Kaikoo's posts. Even better if English is his first language!
30 lessons down, now. The last section I did was on filter envelopes, which I have always struggled with, so the information and exercises were really useful. I thought that the Group Challenge at the end of the section (where you have to recreate patches exactly, using all the controls you've learnt up to that point in every previous lesson in Syntorial!) would be impossible, but surprisingly, when I followed the guidance about which elements to look out for and nail down first, they were OK!
So yes, I'm enjoying this a lot and finding it excellent.
44 lessons done