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Waldorf Attack 1.0.1 update

I just have an updated Attack download!

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  • edited June 2015

    @Christian

    Just have a touch on 1.01 version

    I am really feeling bad about previous page and next page selection tools on Pattern Tool button!

    There are 2 big arrows, one left and one right! Why you don't make them for selecting previous and next page???

    Why you make hard by tap into Tools button! Two times tapping has much difficulty to change Pattern pages and difficuty to work with Attack.

    Is that so important to have 16 steps length adjustment to that 2 big arrows? I really don't know what is your developer designing logic! The pattern length can just be one finger up and down that Lengths button in the middle, you do not have to waste that big 2 arrows there!

    My Gods! please!

  • Give em a finger?

    They gave us the finger?

    Finger up your ass?

    Finger up my nose?

    I feel under ATTACK

  • And while talking about 'UI Logic' I still don't get why the 'step' has the more with little arrow (above soft, mid and hard) because once I press more there is no way to hide it again so it would clearly be better to skip the button have it available all the time.

    I feel that the 'step edit' has potential for big improvements (like editing/adding notes with piano keys).

    At least AudioCopy is working now, still waiting for AudioShare support :)

  • @Christian Please consider adding an option to set the 'velocity' of the pads depending on where on the pad the user touches, edges of pad soft velocity, middle hard velocity. The motion based velocity is not working properly on the Air 2(very inconsistent).

  • I'm compiling an email of feature requests to send to Waldorf as maybe Christian doesn't frequent here very often.

    It doesn't detract from what is a great initial release though. This app has a big future, already one of my favourite iPad apps, even with the workflow annoyances.

  • @Carnbot Thanks, I did that for the first release and compiled all the bugs I could find after about 4 hours of usage.

  • edited June 2015

    @Kaikoo said:
    Christian

    Just have a touch on 1.01 version

    I am really feeling bad about previous page and next page selection tools on Pattern Tool button!

    There are 2 big arrows, one left and one right! Why you don't make them for selecting previous and next page???

    Why you make hard by tap into Tools button! Two times tapping has much difficulty to change Pattern pages and difficuty to work with Attack.

    Is that so important to have 16 steps length adjustment to that 2 big arrows? I really don't know what is your developer designing logic! The pattern length can just be one finger up and down that Lengths button in the middle, you do not have to waste that big 2 arrows there!

    My Gods! please!

    Seems to be a lot of problems for you to select a pattern you want.

    We have 4(!) different ways to select a pattern:

    1: Tap on “PTN” will open a popover which lets you select a previous, a next and a pattern number you type in

    2: Swipe left or right on “PTN” selects the previous or the next pattern

    3: Swipe left or right with 2 fingers on the pattern itself (the place where you set the steps) selects the next or the previous pattern

    4: Then in the patterns “Tools”, previous and next pattern again. It makes a lot of sense to put it in here. Imagine you want to copy and paste over different patterns…

    No waste of two big arrows on pattern length. Using that 2 arrows to select a pattern would completely be off the logic of that UI-element.

    Thank you anyway for your input on that ;-)

  • edited June 2015

    @Christian said:

    oh great didn't realise there was a swipe function, very useful....thanks :)

  • @Carnbot said:
    oh great didn't realise there was a swipe function, very useful....thanks :)

    Your welcome and thank you for your kind words =-D

  • @Christian said:

    thank you for your explanation, makes me realize how many ways to do 1 things!

  • @Christian said:

    Thanks for your hard work :) I've been using it most days since the release, lots of fun to use and lots of depth to Attack..great to have a 24 track synth

  • @Christian thanks for the update, look forward to playing with it, and thanks for the pattern info. I didn't know half of that. Perhaps you should run a tutorial webinar, would be great to help users make the most of this app and also be terrific PR :)

  • Finally works for more than 15 minutes in my ipad air and ipad mini retina, thanx an keep updating.

  • @Christian
    I'm saying 5 stars. Thanks hugely, Attack is totally cool, keep up the good work!

  • @Samu Just curious. Are there any current iPad drum apps that us the center/edge taps do discriminate velocity?

  • Kept crashing on me trying to import a wav file from AudioCopy (the app). Ipad 4, os 8.3. Or more specifically, it finally imports files, but crashes when I try to load it on a track.

  • edited June 2015

    @Diode108 said:
    Samu Just curious. Are there any current iPad drum apps that us the center/edge taps do discriminate velocity?

    Could it be that 5 star app called Diode 108
    Edit: Sorry, Thought it was a trick question-

    iGOG from WaveMachine does but isn't AB (or IAA AFAIK)
    MidiPads does but it's a controller...that's all I can think of, anyone?

  • @Diode108 I have at least one app that does this and it's 'Stroke Machine' by Norman Franke.

    To me it feels like a very natural way on a touch-screen to do velocity, similar to touch-piano keys where the vertical position sets the velocity, This method for piano-keys is already present in many synth apps including Waldorf Attack so extending it to drum-pads only feels like a logical step.

  • Cubasis also, keys and drum pads, I used to control Gadget with it just for the velocity thing.

  • In ThumbJam volume can be assigned to X-axis on any of the instruments.

  • @firejan82 Some day we might see a bigger & better 'touch-keyboard' in Gadget as the suggestion has reached the developers. Kaos-Pad would be nice too :)

    There are many apps that use the touch-screen creatively to simulate velocity, but using the 'accelerometer' is a hit & miss most of the time.

    @Christian Using the 'Smart-Case' should in theory make accelerometer based velocity work better as there is room for the iPad to 'move' when the case is used to angle up the iPad. The 'Pad Velocity' feature of Attack is very un-predictable on iPad Air 2, sometimes the pads make no sound at all or the level is so low it's barely audible hence the plea to add additional ways to control velocity using the pads.

  • please, is it stable now? or should i wait for version 2.0 at least?

  • I really hope midi sync, midi learn and adjustable in/out song timeline looping are next on the update list.....those would significantly improve workflow.

    Lots of other song mode feature additions I would like too, but those would be a great start :)

  • @Goozoon said:
    please, is it stable now? or should i wait for version 2.0 at least?

    It's been pretty stable for me since the beginning Air 2, iOS 8.3...occasional crashes (but very rare) but I haven't been using it in Audiobus much.

    I had to reboot after installing otherwise it would crash, but after that fine so far and I've been using it a lot.

    I've also got it on a mini retina and it's seems the same (although I haven't used it the same amount of time so not sure of stabilty there)

  • Have all the issues been addressed now? This might be my Friday treat...

  • @Samu said:
    Some day we might see a bigger & better 'touch-keyboard' in Gadget as the suggestion has reached the developers. Kaos-Pad would be nice too :)

    I supported your request on the Korg forum. Unfortunately it didn't even get standard "Thank you for the feedback. We will send your request to the dev team" reply from the Korg-bot.

    I did request velocity control in the Gadget petition: http://forum.audiob.us/discussion/comment/142281/#Comment_142281

    But it won't make the 'Big 3' shortlist if I'll remain the only one requesting it ;-)

  • @R_2 Considering that 'Korg Module' has a keyboard with 'velocity sensitivity' I feel pretty confident we'll get a better onscreen keyboard in Gadget. I mean the keyboard in iMS-20, iPolySix and iM1 is pretty decent but lacks only 'vertical velocity'. Kaos Pad in Gadget would be nice too :D

  • Looking at the update details it says they've fixed an iPad2 graphics bug, and Audiopaste bug. Is that it? Haven't they added the much requested features such as looping, parameter automation, have more than 16 steps etc. and if not, are they going to? This has a whiff of the iMPC Pro about it...

  • edited June 2015

    @Samu said:
    Diode108 I have at least one app that does this and it's 'Stroke Machine' by Norman Franke.

    To me it feels like a very natural way on a touch-screen to do velocity, similar to touch-piano keys where the vertical position sets the velocity, This method for piano-keys is already present in many synth apps including Waldorf Attack so extending it to drum-pads only feels like a logical step.

    Thanks. It does make good sense and is easy to implement. My main concern is whether it would be baffling to sloppy padsters who don't know what's happening. :-) Maybe it just needs a toggle button for turning it on that has a good descriptive name.

  • @Diode108 The 'sloppy padsters' will be just happy because it ads an extra step of expression to the 'fingering' :D

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