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Extremely Pissed, Lost 43 beats. I can reproduce crash bug, can you help confirm?
lost this mornings work I'm so pissed I should have copied every beat I made to audioshare but I didn't, here are the steps please follow them to a tee.
1.load a song (not something you don't mind losing)
press save (save song)
in the title area of the song press until it says 'select all'
type this name exactly without the parenthesis (my beats-6/28/2015)
and save.... elastic drums should immediately crash and the song will be lost.
for clarification there is a space between my and beats, also there is no space between beats and -6/28/2015
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@kobamoto, Can you clarify? Is this a bug with elastic drums or audioshare, or are you not sure?
it's with elastic drums, I usually copy stuff to audioshare right away that's why I mentioned it..
this is elastic drums only, no audiobus, no audioshare
Using / (forward slash or back-slash or : for that matter) in a filename is like asking for trouble, just saying...
did it crash for you too Samu, why is that like asking for trouble, i just assumed it was ok since the app allows it?
it is smart to avoid slashes and colons becuase they are used by programming languages to create file paths, so the app may have tried to save to a folder that doesn't exist and crashed in trying
The app in question should have better 'error handling'. The lack of that makes it crash. I bet iOS throws an error at the app for illegal filename but since it doesn't handle that it crashes. I'd definitely report in to the developers, at least it's a good way to check their response-time for user issues.
"/ \ :" are used to define 'file-paths' and should therefore not be used in filenames...
i see, I should also mention that I'm on iOS 7.1.2 and an iPad 3
but I wonder has anybody else been able to reproduce this crash?
AudioShare 'replaces' invalid characters with _ (So if you rename a file in AudioShare to start or contain / it will be replaced with _).
I can crash seek beats by putting / in the filename but I use common sense and do not to use / in my filenames...
Diode had a couple slash bugs early on that were pretty terrible. We put a lot more error handling in once someone pointed it out.
Sucks kobo, sorry. Samu is right: just never use /,\, or : in a file name. Even if one piece of software supports it, another may not.
I'll remember to add the common sense next time
General rule of thumb: any character you're not able to use in a filename on a Mac or Windows PC should not be used in a file name on your iPad. When I name a file using numbers, I check the time first, and then I put year-month-date-time in 24-hour time (without the dashes). SO, it's 2:21pm at the moment, so the file would be called 201506281421.
Another general rule of thumb is save, save, save. Mate, Elastic Drums is one of those apps that has a built-in Audioshare API. You can always delete previous revisions or files you don't need within Audioshare, move them to folders, etc. The latest Audioshare update has a handy "trash bin" feature where you can trash something, but it won't be entirely deleted just in case you change your mind.
My final rule of thumb: save, save, save. Be OCD about it. Instead of buying that extra synth app for $10 that'll end up collecting virtual dust by next month, put that towards your monthly Dropbox fee. Instead of 2GB, you'll have 1TB worth of storage. That's more than a lifetime's worth so long as you dedicate Dropbox solely to storing your project files and such.
Of course before we fixed it, since we're programmers we spent several minutes saying, "WHO WOULD PUT A SLASH IN A NAME?!?"
AC/DC?
so were you able to reproduce this diode?
@Diode108 Some countries have a habit of using / when defining 'dates' guess that's the root-cause for the problem. I remember the problems from way back when Mac OS 'classic' supported / \ in filenames and a Novell-Server just swallowed everything (it encoded the character as %ascii-code on the server) but it was just totally impossible to open the files on a Windows Machine
(Same with files that started or ended with a 'space' or '.' or).
OS X: Cross-platform filename best practices and conventions (Applies to iOS as well).
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202808
Anyway this should definitely be brought to the Elastic Drums developers attention, it's sloppy coding!
@kobamoto, Diode-108 keeps you from even entering : and / when you are entering a filename. I haven't tried it in Elastic Drums, but I would never be surprised to see special filespec characters crash an app. You should definitely report it to the developer of Elastic Drums. When we had the bug in Diode, it caused a permacrash when people tried to open the app, as it hung up trying to load the current project upon start.
Oh yeah. Surprised we never heard from them.
Nice!
@kobamoto Elastic Drums crashes for me too when using / (as do some other apps).
i plan to report it, but I wanted to make sure it's happening for everyone before I bothered them for no reason
@kobamoto Goodie! If an app crashes for one user it will sooner or later crash for others too.
Some of the apps I tested for / just leave the rename dialogue without renaming the file but do not prompt the user to tell them the name contained invalid characters.
For example Korg Gadget substitutes invalid characters with _ as do most of the apps that allow renaming.