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Monitors for mastering

Decided I'm gonna have to invest in monitor speakers cause my left ear drum is not picking up some things via headphones., feels like sound is being forced into my ears via headphones anyway..not enough space between the sound and my ears, if that makes sense.

I'll produce tracks with the headphones but for mix down and mastering, I think monitors are the done thing.

If you use this method, please chime in, and also tell us what speakers you use and recommend..

Comments

  • How much do you want to spend? Mastering monitors can cost tens of thousands of dollars in some cases.

  • The problem isn't which monitors to buy. It's not knowing your room acoustics and what you can do to treat them. You can get by with relatively inexpensive monitors if you really know them. But even monitors in the tens of thou$and$ will not help your mix if your room acoustics are poor.

  • Hundreds maybe but not thousands lol

    @Tarekith said:

    How much do you want to spend? Mastering monitors can cost tens of thousands of dollars in some cases.

  • Good point thanks. Need to consider which room can be used. Possibly the small playroom my son uses. Then figure out the acoustics. As its a very small room, I doubt there is much echo or reverberation to distract perception of frequencies right?

    @Thomas said:
    The problem isn't which monitors to buy. It's not knowing your room acoustics and what you can do to treat them. You can get by with relatively inexpensive monitors if you really know them. But even monitors in the tens of thou$and$ will not help your mix if your room acoustics are poor.

  • edited July 2015

    @touchconspiracy said:
    As it's a very small room, I doubt there is much echo or reverberation to distract perception of frequencies right?

    Small rooms are pretty bad acoustically. They tend to sound boxy and colour the sound quite heavily. I think it's often more beneficial to use good quality headphones, then send your mixed track to a professional for mastering. Let them worry about room acoustics etc. They will come to the track with a fresh perspective, which is often useful too.

    If you definitely prefer to use monitors, some small monitors will probably be most appropriate in a small room. Bass frequencies will be difficult to judge unless you can use an acoustically treated larger room anyway, so large monitors will only really increase the potential problems. Whatever monitoring setup you have, though, I think the key is to listen to lots of well-produced tracks on them, so you can tune in to how they sound on your setup. Then you'll be more likely to be able to match your productions to reference tracks that you know to be great.

  • I've read many good things about the JBL lsr 305. They have a 5" cone for deep and middle frequencies and should be good for a small room. They are much cheaper in the USA as in Europe.

  • I still have my Alesis monitor 1 original 1999 version. I realm stand by these. What you hear is what you get. And I don't even have a treated room. They also truly last.

  • Good question.. Actually i'm about to order the Alesis Elevate 5. Can someone help me and tell me if this monitors are good? I know they are cheap.. I just wanna something decent to start with.. I'm not an audio engineer. Thanks in advance. Cheers

  • Thanks mate. I do have perhaps 5-6people I can send for pro masteringmastering for free etc but I want to diy.

    Makes sense what you say about bigger room to hear that sub bass!!

    @Vecoto said:
    If you definitely prefer to use monitors, some small monitors will probably be most appropriate in a small room. Bass frequencies will be difficult to judge unless you can use an acoustically treated larger room anyway, so large monitors will only really increase the potential problems. Whatever monitoring setup you have, though, I think the key is to listen to lots of well-produced tracks on them, so you can tune in to how they sound on your setup. Then you'll be more likely to be able to match your productions to reference tracks that you know to be great.

  • Invest in soundproofing and something like ik multimedia Arc system 2 first. Then don't scrimp on monitors, instead save for ones that'll last a lifetime. I highly HIGHLY recommend Unity Audio the rocks 2. They won't rub your back and say your work is great. If it needs work doing on it they'll let you know. The degree of seperation is unlike anything I've heard previously and that includes focals, Adams & Dynaudio's. You get what you pay for and the rocks are phat!

  • @Earsinn said:
    I've read many good things about the JBL lsr 305. They have a 5" cone for deep and middle frequencies and should be good for a small room. They are much cheaper in the USA as in Europe.

    I have these, very happy with them. I haven't used any other studio monitors to compare though but seem great to me.

  • @Earsinn said:
    I've read many good things about the JBL lsr 305. They have a 5" cone for deep and middle frequencies and should be good for a small room.

    I own a pair of the JBL LSR 305s and can vouch for their sound quality as near-field monitors in a 14x14 room. You can also check the reviews at Amazon:

    http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Professional-LSR305-Studio-Monitor/dp/B00DUKP37C

    I would also suggest keeping a pair of reference tracks similar to the style you're mastering in your DAW, and performing A/B (and A/C) comparisons often. This and regular sound "checks" on the car stereo, on your phone, on your home stereo system, etc will have more impact on your results than acoustic treatments or the size of your room, (or whether said room has a big honkin' window smack dab in the middle of one wall like mine does ;) IMO.

  • I was told many years ago to play the audio through the medium people will use to listen to the track to gauge how it will sound. The studio we used had various speaker systems and even did rough mixes to play in the car! He always advised playing a properly mastered track through the speakers you have so that you can cross reference the mix tuning to suit your requirements. A good pair of headphones is better than a pair of rubbish speakers but make sure you keep the volume low for the majority of the duration of the sessions. Keeps your ears fresh and stops you going deaf!

  • edited July 2015

    I've nearly bought the JBL's, but then I went for a pair of Yamaha LS7's, which I like a lot. I made this decision because of the somewhat bigger speaker. (6,5") But for a very small room this could lead to more problems than advantages.

    I've read a lot of articles before buying and nearly always the importance of room-treatment was highlighted. It is something I still have to care for, but I can already say that the monitors are a night and day-difference to my hifi-speakers.

  • edited July 2015

    There are also some not too expensive monitors with a front ported bass-reflex - maybe this suits better a small room, cause distance to walls isn't critical. Tannoy Reveal 402/502 for example. But I've read they were hissing somewhat above average level - don't know if it is really an issue - perhaps you can try some. Nice little speakers. The Adam F5 is also front-ported but somewhat more expensive. Both, Tannoy and Adam are getting nice reviews, all in all.

  • I just got the JBL 305s -- got them from amazon as part of a bundle that included xlr cables and monitor stands. Great price, haven't done much with them yet except set them up, but they sound great in my somewhat-small bedroom studio and I think I'm gonna be very happy.

  • I use an old pair of NS10m I found in Hammersmith in the 90s. I got them from x-electrical on the high street for £150. Never used anything else and most people like my transparent mixes so I think they must be good?

  • The NS10's are sealed speakers like the Unity Audio's. It is of no surprise that mixes made on them sound good on all systems. Sealed speakers are brutally honest and that is a great thing. They are unforgiving in a good way. They'll make you work but the rewards are a professional sounding mix. Make your music sound good on sealed speakers and they'll sound true on everything. Hearing is believing!

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