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Thanks. Pro L is another £17 though
. I have my limits (if you'll excuse the pun)!
For now i'll just use the built in one or feed through to the one in master record which is simple and (i think) effective.
So what are people's views on the factory convolution reverb then?
It's OK. but hampered by the lack of tone controls. I wish it had a low pass filter at the very least because I find a lot of the IRs to be very bright. I do use it quite a bit though.
Brilliant thread. For the record, I would like everything from now on (in life as well as the forum) described in these terms:
You might imagine a compressor as a dim-witted studio intern whom you task with manually controlling a single volume fader on a mixer. Pointing at a particular spot on the channel meter you say, "anytime the signal goes above this line on the meter, turn the fader down". The threshold is the line on the meter you pointed at. The ratio is how much it gets turned down. The attack is the amount of time it take between when the intern sees it go above the line on the meter and when they get the fader moved to the quieter position. Release is the amount of time it takes to put the fader back to its default position after the signal drops below the line on the meter.
-The Professor
Now, I get it.
@Matt_Fletcher_2000
Delaying one word in a sentence, quick and dirty hack. Cut that word (or copy) and paste onto an empty track, which has the delay on it. Now only that word or words is delayed.
I did that on the song "Mask" on our shutterwax album, which was mixed on auria. On shutterwax.bandcamp.com, spotify, and shutterwax.com if you want to hear it in context.
Wow!!!!!!
I finally learned compression!!!!!
Thank you General!
Thanks...@mrufino1 - will check it out.
I'll try that. I'm also thinking of a combination of both "input" and also "wet" knobs mapped to an x-y pad. Might hopefully make it quite 'playable' so I can add some selective delay on a live 'play through' which is what I've been doing in Gadget.
Quoted typos are painful.
Mf2k, one way to approach brightening things is to consider dulling other things around it.
For the delay... Is it on a send or an insert? If it's on a send, just automate the send amount.
@syrupcore Original work and content is all the matters, editing is for underlings....
Pro q is the epitome of what makes the fab filter ui work. It so visual, you can see the entire wave. See where it peaks or falls short. It's super easy to to tweak a few spots, and it makes it intuitive to do so. And it sounds really, really good. The limiter also, you can see what's going on with your whole track, understand what's being limited, and the gain boost does so with a sublime lack of messing with the quality of sound. Is any of it necessary, of course not. But it's really mice nuts for cost compared to the desktop, and really is better.
For the cost of the limiter on the Mac, on iOS, you can get the limiter, the compressor, The eq, Auria, and a few other bits. Pretty amazing.
In the old days we would put the delay on a bus and only turn up the aux send from the channel to feed a short burst of sound into the delay. The delay always stays on ready to accept a signal. Now we can automate this or trigger from midi events too.
I'm still not sure what to do with WOW when Turnado seems to cover it all. Just in a different way.
Hmmm, yeah I've never used that in Auria.
Do you find Timeless and Volcano are providing more options and control than the filters/echoes in Turnado? I'm wondering if they might be a bit of an indulgence for me, as I already have Turnado. I think I need to get that one out tonight and see if I really need Timeless and Volcano, or if I should concentrate on the EQ side of things instead, after all it'll cost nearly 40 quid for the three I've got my eye on.
Thanks for your feedback Matt, it's really helping.
@monzo,
I've got Timeless and Volcano and I think they're really good, certainly different beasts to Turnado. I have to say that I haven't used them as such, I waiting for when I start my 'auria project'
Ah right thanks
I've just had a little play with Turnado in Auria - it works well, and though the pads are missing you can still get into the editing section. I think I'm a bit bored with it though. Think I'll buy Timeless tonight and see how I get on with that one.
@syrupcore thx for explanation about attack and release. I think I understand it now, and I think my initial thought was right (they are sort of faders) but I got confused after my initial thought. You explained it perfectly by the example: ratio 1:4 , attack 100 ms : after 50 ms the gain is reduced 1:2 and after 75 ms the gain is reduced 1:3. I understand this. Thanks!!
And I understand that ratio 1:4 means: 4 db above threshold will be compressed to 1 db. And ratio 1:8 means 8 db above threshold is compressed to 1 db.
Thinking aloud: People speak of higher ratio, but I have to think : what is high? is 1:8 higher than 1:4 ? The number is higher with the 8, but 8 db is further away from the threshold, so compression doesn't take place when we are at 6 Db.
No, thats not it, can't be it. The example in the definition by mrufino1 is misleading, it has to be:
ratio = the ratio of how much is compressed, the percentage of compression, 1:4 means everyting above threshold is compressed to 25 % of its value (1/4 of its value).
So with ratio 1:4 and signal is 2 db above threshold, these 2 db is compressed to 0,5 db. And with ratio is 1:8 these 2 db above threshold is compressed to 0,25 db wich is 1/8 of the value of 2 db. So 1:8 is indeed a higher ratio. Had to invent the wheel for myself.
I could go on forever: is the 2 db pressed into 0.5 db or is there 1,5 db chopped off? Shall not go on with this idea, stop marcel!
Threshold, attack, release, ratio I think I got the basics now. Thanks again!
Also thanks to @Jocphone @rickwaugh @richardyot @mrufino1 for giving the subject a comment, you added to my understanding of the subject.
More inclined to buy Pro C now.
What do you mean by the last sentence of your post about Pro MB.. Thanks!
I have another silly question...
Do people use EQ (Pro Q) for creative/automated effects much?
Swinging the lovely EQ curves in ProQ around quite radically over an "interesting Animoog drone pad" track gave me some great modulation and crazy evolving sounds which i can obviously record as automation - in many ways better than just moving filters around over it with Volcano.
Is this a good or a bad thing to be doing?
Sounds like there's a bit of an overlap - I'm wondering if I need Volcano as well as Timeless, as Timeless has a lot of filter based functionality as well. If Pro Q can do it too, maybe I just need those two.
I'm stuck between getting Pro-MB or Timeless
Absolutely. Since the day EQs were added to mixing boards. When you listen to classic dub, that's all mixer EQ. There were no stand alone filter boxes beyond maybe a wah.
Can't speak to Volcano's pleasures because I continue to come to the same conclusion as you have. Especially when you add Turnado into the equation.
I can see why you struggled. For non-overlapping fun experience, Saturn will full for your joy!
If you guys really want to dip into troubles with Timeless, I suggest you wait untill Auria Pro to come, because it has that delay and double filters on Twin2 for saving you lots!
I already have Turnado and Microwarmer. I love MW most as I haven't really used Turnado cause it seems more like a DJs tool. But ran it thru a track and it is pretty neat what it can do also.
I think I will end up going for Pro-MB to be able to work on tracks or whole mixes and pin point areas that can be tamed once they're already on track. Instead of hving to redo a recording. Seems like that plugin is the tool I need.
I thought it was a synth - can you use it as an effect as well?
Yeah, Turnado's filters are pretty good - I prefer the Timeless delays (from what I've heard on YouTube) though, so close to pressing the button on that one - not sure about Kaikoo's comment about it being covered in Auria Pro though...
There's not really any contest between Turnado's and Timeless' delays. It's another world.
I'm getting excited now...
Turnado, Timeless, Volcano and Saturn are all different!
I don't know what you want the plugin for what purpose!
By far, if you try to add color and spices, Saturn fill your bill. If you want rhythmic things, Volcano is your target! If you want the tail part, and all sort of strangeness reflection, Timeless is your lab! If you want a good mix, Pro Q is yours! If you want a perfect balance and dynamic comforts, then Pro MB is your beauty! Pro G can correlate your instrument sound movements! So the most difficult and complex from FabFilter is Timeless2. You got to prepared your time to experiment, I have Timeless, I have not prepared to dig it!
I love digging!
ITunes card coming up.
Pro-MB and timeless are on the crosshairs!
I play electro guitar and was looking for a delay like that all within Auria.
Ha, guitarist! Are you motorcycling ponk? great choice!