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Music Has The Right To Children

Just read this article written by David Byrne about the meager state of the music industry:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/02/opinion/sunday/open-the-music-industrys-black-box.html

In this day and age music and the artists who create it should be flourishing. There's no reason for it to be any other way. There are easy delivery and payment systems available, and these systems stretch across the globe.

Don't really have much else to say about this, other than think about where your money goes. If you don't know where it's going, find out. As for artists, same principle, just on the other side of the deal.

I know there are indie platforms available, but there probably needs to be more, and they probably need to be at the forefront and leading the way.

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  • edited August 2015

    And if you're wondering about the title of the thread, it's the title of Boards of Canada's 1998 debut LP, the wording of which appeared to be a playful jab at record companies and their apparent reluctance to embrace the newfound delivery system for music that was the dawn of the internet for use of public consumption.

    Turquoise Hexagon Sun, from that album:

  • The lack of transparency is huge, but the main culprit in that is Google, which has done the same weird thing where they don't tell you their percentage of a cut of their ad service across various platforms, such as video or websites.

    I suppose that gives them an amazing amount of leverage to utilize when making their quarterly earnings statements.

    Also, the amazing fact that in this internet age the seller should have some type of automatic verification when an item sells, instead of having to "trust" the monthly numbers an electronic storefront gives them at the end of each month, as if the same storefronts don't have various $$$$ incentives to lie about those numbers.

    The whole thing is built on the same mountain of BS the record industry had with storefronts in the past, and the only way to truly "win" is not to sell out to "the new boss, same as the old boss". Same as it ever was.

    There will likely be an integrity music movement in the future like the integrity "local food" movements springing up around the US.

  • @1P18 Great Boards of Canada reference. :)

    I've read in other articles what David Byrne says here. The record companies are the problem. Years ago Radiohead went independent and they said they sold fewer CDs but made almost double the money. Recording, mixing, and producing the music yourself prevents you from having to pay the record company back and you own the master.

    If you are trying to be a Top 40 act then you need them for advertising and radio play. If not screw em.

  • Just seems like there is so much good free music for most people to listen to instantly. Thats gotta cut into the equation. Plus it is going to get easier and easier for people to swap tracks. you will be able to sneeze and share every song you ever owned. In the face of that the day of making money from recorded stereo tracks seems over and not coming back.

    I think a big avenue will open up for some sort of VR performances. It will be so cool to watch people perform sets in vr and even jam with them. I am sure there will be some sort of VRTube etc.

  • edited August 2015

    Earning money with recorded music is over for musicians (if you don't do heavy rotation mainstream music). I bought the last cd 15 years ago, in the last 12 months I bought 1 song. Most of the music I listen to is a long click stream now, or my old music library.
    this is not the end of the world, lol, it's just the end of the "record industry". play live, if you are good people will come and pay. (If you don't have absurd ticket prices, hint 100€ for 2 hours of music is to much.) So the recorded music is just the ad for the concerts.

  • @lala said:
    (If you don't have absurd ticket prices, hint 100€ for 2 hours of music is to much.)

    You're right about ticket prices. Here in the USA they go for at least $100 unless it's a state fair. An excuse they use for high ticket prices has been the lack of recorded music sales.

  • edited August 2015

    For music listeners these tickets are way to high priced. You don't just have to pay for the ticket, you have to travel to the event, eat, drink, sleep blah blah ...
    and if you are unlucky the artist has a bad day and leaves after an hour...

  • edited August 2015

    I think apple did a clever move to move to streaming now.
    Trent Reznor used to be on oink, too. ;)
    So he is living in the here and now.
    he should remember that so that the iTunes offerings in music content becomes a little more "arty" and less mainstream. Haha.
    if u r in the USA NSFW there's titts in here. Hahaha.
    the past inside in the present

  • edited August 2015

    Yes, the 'good old days' are gone and I think it's hitting established artists harder than independent artists.

    People do still make money from their music of course, but the playing field has changed , so to speak.
    In my line of things (ambient music), Steve Roach and Robert Rich seem to be doing pretty well with downloads / streaming and for myself, I'm now getting more royalties than I did when I was selling CDs. It's still a pittance compared to the 'big boys', but at least we don't have to get a 1000 glass mastered CD run made to release our music these days !

  • This thread is just about "Capitalism"- when I became interested in creating music ,whether or not I was ever gonna receive a payment for something that I loved doing for its own sake,was the furthest thing from my mind and still is,---now if you were "Lucky" enough to be in the so-called right- place and time and you were given the opportunity or patronism,to turn a few quid ,that's great, whether,it was any good or not,---but come-on I doubt ,the Vast- Majority of,musicians people who ,are ,say the members of just this forum, these,"musicians" aren't earning or trying earn a cent on the Art they make.--- and the Irony of a Talking Head,being a Talking Head really sums it up.--I'm not dissing any working musicians,I'm sure you are worth all the readdies that are available and good luck to you all! However in my mind the, Equation,- Music= Money is incorrect.

  • @Greenie this would be a long conversation, covering many aspects of many subjects, to really do more -from any viewpoint- than over-simplify things, and it's late and I'm tired and I have a poem to write that no one will buy or worse or better that I wouldn't sell them anyways because their interest would be in the money business, their money business, not mine, but this is just to say, that at root I like your certitude and I believe in its essence.

  • Yah many highways and byways this subject could take, soundtrack composition etc....

  • Being good in business is the most fascinating kind of art. Making money is art and working is art and good business is the best art. - Andy Warhol

  • @mkell424 said:
    ....and good business is the best art. - Andy Warhol

    What a contrarian fucker.

  • edited August 2015

    One word.. Spotify

    Literally nearly everyone I know now uses spotify pro.

    All my music loving friends no longer buy any music (bar a few that still buy vinyl, but they also use spotify).
    I go to house parties and the music is spotify playlists.

  • edited August 2015

    I still think we should set up a audiobus/ios music community store. At least we can buy each others music right?
    Clif was working on something a while ago, not sure what happend to it

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