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The Last iOS 7 to 8 Upgrader
As one of the last few holdouts, I've watched the progression of upgrading woes and final acceptance of iOS 8.x. I was almost ready to hop onboard a while back, but then 8.3 broke iFunBox, a staple in my toolkit. Finally, I think I'm ready to join the modern era. Maybe.
So my question for the forum today is- just how do I upgrade at this point??? I can no longer backup the app ipa's (or whatever the actual app file is), and the old versions of many of my apps won't load under 8.x anyway.
Short of manually backing up all of my project files first, is there any wisdom you can impart before I begin? I'm upgrading an iPad Air 1 from iOS 7.1.3 (I think). Since there's no going back, I'd really like to get this right.
Thanks for your help.
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For sure make sure u got latest iTunes version.
Them all your apps might have to be reloaded. Some might not tho as it happened to me.
I was one of the few that preached staying at 8.2. Many listened many didn't . Oh well, many are happy anyway. I stayed at 8.2 came back from 8.3.
Good luck!
1-Connect your iPad to your Mac/PC iTunes.
2-Backup your iPad, this backs up the system.
3-Sync your iPad, this backs up your 3rd party apps, including IAPs.
4-Archive your backup, like this:
http://www.cultofmac.com/236975/stay-safe-archive-older-ios-backups-via-itunes-ios-tips/
5-Upgrade your iPad to 8.x.
6-Sync your iPad.
you should now be in great shape-!
if your feel this went wrong somehow, well, there's info out there that might tell you to search for your IPSW file, and restore from that, using the option key or some other magic. poke around the net and find links like this:
http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/iosapps/how-downgrade-from-ios-8-ios-7-reinstall-ios-8-3522302/?p=2
or this:
https://ipsw.me/all
read up a bit, you know the drill.
then, once you've put your iPad into recovery mode and done some serious voodoo to get it back to 7, you can restore from that archived backup we made in step 4. Of course, none of this downgrading stuff should really be necessary. and i think what you are most interested in is the saving of your projects, files, and IAPs. what i can say from experience is that i tried to install ios9 beta, and it was a disaster for me, but once i went thru some similar voodoo and downgraded to 8, restored from backup and synced, i had all my goodies back in place right where they are meant to be. i hope this info helps. mtfbwy
Can you be clearer as to what your doubts are?
Because upgrading an iPad from iOS 7 to 8 is not going to affect your project files, they should all survive the transition intact.
Personally I tend to use iCloud backups rather than iTunes, and I've successfully migrated from an iPad 2 to an iPad 4, and then another time from the iPad 4 to an Air 2 using iCloud backups and all my project files have survived the trip. That's going from one iPad to another, but upgrading the OS on the same iPad should be pretty much risk-free, I've certainly never lost any work from doing that.
I did the upgrade on my pc with itunes and everything went fine. No files lost.
iOS8 ceased being the iBogeyman so many iMonths ago that it seems kinda quaint to still be a holdout!
Upgrade without fear, my friend.
I can't wait for the fear cycle to begin again with iOS9 next month: doubtless the EATER OF CHILDREN.
It's not really a cycle of fear, I think it's unfair to call it that. The last two iterations of iOS have had some very serious teething problems and broken established workflows. In both cases it was sensible to wait a few months before upgrading. That's not a hysterical fear-driven position, but a pragmatic one.
I'm holding out on 7.1.2 ip3 until patterning makes me do different!
All my music apps worked better when upgraded from 7.1.2 to 8.3. Less bugs/crashes when using IAA. Got a lot of music apps and all working with no problems.
My advice : Upgrade
I upgraded from 7.1.something to 8.4 on iPad2 after holding out for what seemed like a year. As stated above, most of this fear was based on the early horror stories about things not working on iOS8. Those things generally get resolved over time. But there was also a more practical fear that my 2011 device wasn't capable of running a new operating system effectively.
I think there has been more benefit than downside to having upgraded. No, things don't run great, but that was also very true of iOS7 on this old device. And the list of iOS8-only apps (including some of the new Korg stuff) was growing and growing, and I've been able to buy a few that seem to run as well as the apps I already had.
Inevitably, I'm going to need a new device anyway (which I've been saying probably since the first day I joined the forum). But I don't regret upgrading to iOS8, even on iPad2.
...still...holding...out. I'm still on 7.0.2 and have no intention of upgrading soon. Everything works quite well for me as far as my workflow goes. Maybe if 9 comes out and the kinks are worked out I'll upgrade to 9.1 in the fall.
Thanks for the most excellent step-by-step, Zetagy. And thanks everyone for the reassurance. You hang in there Halftone!
Honestly, I had been trying to remember every incompatibility until they were resolved. Then I got really busy elsewhere in life and just put it off. But it's true, now so many apps or upgrades require 8.x, it's probably time.
What we really need with the looming year of iOS 9 angst approaching is something like the site caniuse.com. This is a definitive list of HTML, CSS and JavaScript features, and precisely which versions of the popular browsers support them. I can envision a list that somehow maps all music apps (iOS, android, even mobile win) and the OS version needed to run them error-free. What caniuse.com does is show you how NEW your browser needs to be, this site would show you when it's safe to upgrade for any given app. (Crap, now my brain is in overdrive... It could be a series of tabs for OS, a list of apps, click on an app name and see the incompatibilities, some of which are checked off when fixed. Best of all, it's publically editable but maybe curated to keep personal attacks to a min so that we all can keep it up to date. Maybe even the app devs would so inclined to log in and up their children...)
That's really what I want, but it sounds like so... Much... Work... Ugh.
I went from 7.1.2 on both my 4s and my air 2 weeks ago. Verdict? No issues at all on iPad. In 4s, ios9 hopefully will be better. Ios8 blows on this device, very slow, lots of glitches, feels like some of the rooted android Roms I ran a few years ago on my evo. I like the new features, but on the 4s they're just not very smooth.
Edit: I should add that I have absolutely zero desire to buy a new phone. It was working well until 2 weeks ago. I couldn't resist audiobus remote though...which I've yet to use past initial tests, too busy at work.
iOS 8.4 has been a dream for me on 6+ and air 2. No problems at all, and audio apps work like a charm.
Let me tell you how much i cannot stand iOS 9 and the new app-switching UI. After years of skeuomorphism and wood paneling, i've come to really be comfortable with the new clean, flat design aesthetic.
In iOS 9, app-switching is stacked and blurred to give some idea of dimensionality, and i think it fails miserably.
I like seeing the whole screen as a preview...
I installed iOS 9 beta and it was a nightmare, all my audio apps crackled.
Anyway, i'm really not looking forward to the headache of which audio apps work and which don't, what apple may have changed under the hood that screws with everything, i'm very happy with 8.4 and will stay there as long as possible.
I took the day off from work today, so I figured it would be a good time to upgrade. I guess waiting nearly a full year worked in my favor, it went pretty smoothly. I haven't yet tried a complicated Audiobus chain yet, but things seem to be working so far.
It's funny to read Zetagy's comments about iOS 9's design bugging him- it's usually me lecturing about how things are simply a fancy design getting in the way or changing simply for difference. Maybe we've hit a plateau where things don't need to change that much for a while in the OS. Sure, push out security updates immediately, but why change the app switcher??? Reminds me of the STUPID ribbon in Microsoft Office apps. Drives me nuts.
Anyway, I've now joined iOS 2014, and do not anticipate moving to 2015 until sometime next summer at a minimum!