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SunVox: Talk to me ..........................
What is the deal with this app?
What is it exactly?
What kind of music do you make with it?
Is it any good on the IPhone?
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It's a modular tracker primarily, but for the price, it's worth having just for the effects. It fits in all the AB slots, I believe, but the learning curve put me off a bit. I'm a bit more comfortable with it now. It has several effects built in, and building them out to work within AB isn't too difficult.
Totally agree with @funjunkie27.
You can check it out the windows version for free.
The demo songs sound amazing to my ears.
The main problem with using it as a tracker is that you have to use the touch screen to enter numbers. I'd use it a lot more if I could use a bluetooth keyboard with it.
Soon its meant to have 4 midi voices hopefully, so we can use it as a sound module and control it externally:
http://www.warmplace.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=3724
SunVox is awesome. And I say that despite never really have created anything "useful" with it. It's kind of a modular synth/instrument with its own effects suite, but if you understand trackers, yes, it could be its own DAW.
Frankly, I find navigating it on iPad (and especially iPhone) kind of nightmare-ish versus PC, but there's endless value in there for whatever it costs. A lot of people use it for just a single purpose, also, such as filtering other apps through it for effects.
What about as a drum synth?
I just bought it. And got put off immediately.
I'm thinking that actually all i'd want to do is:
Set up a pattern to play, say 8 or 16 different sounds - evenly spaced over 2 bars at 100BPM (or 1 bar at 50BPM)
Then get in and sound-design loads of different sounds ('hits').
Record the 1 or 2 bars output and shove into Gadget's Abu Dhabi.
I just want it as an interesting sound making device to sample from.
@RustiK
Sunvox is a full on DAW, tracker style. Trackers are a whole world of computer music that preceded the DAWs with interfaces coded to look like hardware (UIs that look like tape-decks and mixing-desk like Auria, Cubasis). As mentioned above its modular, meaning you can build pretty much any kind of synth inside it.
@Matt_Fletcher_2000
Getting put off is part of the Sunvox cycle! I consider this one of the most brillant and powerful iOS apps ever, and I've been put off many times along the way.
As far as doing drum synth, given the modular nature of the thing, there's no real limit on sounds to make (along with the generator modules, there is a Drumsynth, a Kick module, and sampler modules that accommodate WAV, XI and OGG files, meaning you can layer multiple generators with multiple samples for a single drum sound, all automate-able btw)
Check out the wide variety of tracks made with Sunvox on soundcloud, and tutorials on YouTube, you'll be encouraged to go back in...
Along with crazy sound design capability, Tracker style, even given touchscreen interface, is actually the fastest method for building perc and drum loops.
Very cool
Doesn't sound like for the phone--no?
@Rustik
Yes, ultra cool!
I have it and use it on my iPhone, even when I had a 5s, but as someone said here once about another universal app, making a project in iPhone can be a bit like building a ship in a bottle. If you fall in love with Sunvox you won't mind.
A fun workflow is you can build a track in VividTracker, (also a universal app) which is a powerful sample based classic tracker interface, and that project can "open in" Sunvox, with samples shipped in with it...and once in Sunvox you can go nuts with modular fun: sound design, fx, # of tracks etc.
Sunvox also allows you to open full midi files inside, and each track will have a sound module assigned
Sunvox at 3 bucks is insanely good, Vividtracker is 3 bucks too. It's quite amazing
I just need to read the manual then. Is there one?
Even if you don't want to deal with tracking at all, you can trigger notes with midi. There's a wide variety of modules with options. A lot of video tutorials online too. The UI is definitely different and you have to become comfortable with sliding the different panes around to get the most out of it.
@Matt_Fletcher_2000 @RustiK
There is a manual:
http://www.warmplace.ru/wiki/sunvox:manual_en
A forum:
http://www.warmplace.ru/forum/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=866e22617a4f6346991bf1ab67ecae3d
And the devs blog:
http://sunvox.blogspot.com
The manual and forum have tons of links to vid tutorials. Video is where I've learned the most. The blog has a monthly best of sunvox compilation.
Sunvox rewards the curious and the persistent. Enjoy!
I absolutely agree with @Littlewoodg
Alexander, the dev, is a mad scientist, musical genius! I love all of his projects! Here is an album he, and the dev of SoundScaper, made with just those two apps!
https://innerspacewelcome.bandcamp.com/album/new-space-project
I've had this for about two months and haven't used it yet. It is pretty hard to figure out granted I haven't put it a lot of time to dig into it. I'll be honest I really don't like the ui at all but I've heard some of the sounds people make with it so I haven't deleted it yet. I'm use to my apps just working without any hasle
once upon a time sunvox was the only decent music app on android. but i threw my HTC into the ocean anyways.
Horror UI made in hell for keyboard and mouse
get something else
the other folks here are much to polite about this for my taste.
UI horror stories are true, but I adjusted to Different Drummer and grew to love it. Sunvox reminds me of that. Steep learning curve, but worth the investment.
I've got a friend who can really flex with SunVox and when I see what he does with it I am nothing less than blown away: he'll make evolving techno type stuff that's just 100% complete and legit all inside SunVox.
When he explains to me what exactly is going on I sort of glaze over and feel inept for wanting the safety and familiarity of an XOX Style iOS groove box app.
Pixitracker on the other hand I put up there with the tippy-top best (and funnest) music making apps with a lovely simplicity and approachability (same developer).
SunVox remains one of those "if I were a better man..." apps. Baby steps though, right?
+1 for Pixitracker. And the 1 bit version!
Baby steps all the way. But only if it's fun. 10,000 hours of deliberate practice = genius, but u won't put in the hours if it is not fun.
SunVox is genius. A bit like Alexander Zolotov.
It is so flexible with its instrument and fx routing that (as a Reason user) I see it as a lo-fi tracker style mini Reason.
It has a steep learning curve because there is so much you can do with it.. But there are lots of you tube torials to get you on your feet and running.
3 $£€ is a small price for the amount of return and well worth spending time on. Just my opinion though.
Sunvox was one of my first apps. I gave it a few tries but the workflow/ UI don't fit my brain. There are so many intuitive easy to use alternative apps... But I fully agree on the dev and his music being genius. I had good times with his Virtual ANS or Nature-Oscillator.
I've never had the time to learn the tracker or sequencing within the app but just using as a virtual instrument, it's a great tool which you can experiment with. I heard from the developer that he plans to make it multi timbral (via midi) which will also mean I'll use it more when this is updated.
I bought SunVox after reading this thread. It's very complex and it indeed will take a lot of time to get deep inside it but guess it is safe to say that this is an amazing iOS music instrument. I've had used Alexandrer Zolotov's Virtual ANS for a year or so and it is also phenomenal. Can't tell how and why I didn't stumble upon SunVox earlier.
Big Sunvox update just rolled in, now has 4 midi slots and more features
@Carnbot
Thanks for the heads up, a big update to start off the day.
For those unfamiliar: the Sunvox man Zolotov never rests
Or, to put it another way, he rests in Russia while it is daytime here in the U.S.
I appreciate SunVox, but I won't disagree with people complaining about the U.I. As a person who was completely new to synthesis and music production 2 years ago (and still know very little), SunVox combines two of the most prohibitive things for new users to learn - modular synthesis and trackers. I think if you had a background in either of those things, you could get going much more easily in SunVox.
It's actually not that hard for me to create simple instrument/effect chains in SunVox. The stuff I find harder are things like setting up MIDI and other basic functionality that would normally be in a menu but in SunVox requires some type of "generator" or "input". To be fair, I watched some of his videos but did not spend time reading the manuals and trying to figure it out.
Does my head in.
I just talked to A last night and asked about the new MIDI functionality. He said the MIDI module is still in the way, but let me know about this hot trick for taking one channel and breaking it up across octaves to send different sequences to different synths. So if you don't want to use the tracker format, and drive the whole thing by MIDI, you can:
http://www.warmplace.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2574
Well, hands down, huge update, five stars (no deep) review this evening.