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Best bass synth? hardware or ios? new production rig quagmire
Ok I am setting up a new rig to stick to when making music.
I want to limit myself to a rig, and leave it setup to work on and learn thoroughly.
I want a synth for solid bass synthesis, whats the best ios synth for this or should i just go hardware?
current rig as planned:
Beatstep Pro Master Seq & Midi Clock:
Midi routing: iConnectMidi4+
Hardware:
Geist2 - Controlled by Melodic Seq 1.1
SP404 - Controlled by Drum Seq 1.1 (Master compressor)
iPad Air:
Cyclop - Controlled by Melodic Seq 1.2 (this would be dumped in favour of a better option hardware/ios bass synthesizer)
Samplr - Controlled Midi Clock
Mimix - To route Audio
iPad3:
Samplr (2nd Instance - Controlled Midi Clock)
AudioBus Remote (control Mimix mute/solo)
As you can see above I am currently dedicating the second melodic seq of the beatstep pro to Cyclop. If you know of a better synth for bass or a good hardware option? I am looking for deep sub basslines.
What i'm thinking:
Cyclop
Gadget (dublin)
Beathawk (the sub bass presets)
Thanks!!
Comments
ok just found this, might be a good option:
MoPho Keyboard DSI Dave Smith Instruments
Mopho's are great. Couple of apps out there to make programming them more fun. Think there are lots of great apps for bass too. iSem is my goto. IMini, sunrizer and Magellan...
What is the hardware Geist2?
Cool yes iSem is a great one as is iMini, I have them both. iMini is what I'm looking for I think, that smooth moog sound. Will see how I go with that before thinking anymore about hardware
I used to own a Mopho Keyboard. I loved it so much and only was sorry for it wasn't polyphonic. At one point a friend got his like new Mopho x4 up for sale at a great price, bought it and sold the yellow beast. Mophos can produce huge bass sounds but I primarily use mine for leads, pads and sequences. For basses, there's the Moog Sub Phatty.... has less features (no arpeggiator and sequencer, only 16 on-board presets..) but you know, it just has that Moog filter and that Moog sound..
@syrupcore
but i'm using a macbook dedicated to geist and using it like a hardware unit. The app runs standalone on the macbook and syncs with midi clock and you can trigger the pads from beatsep pro
geist2 is the next version of fxpansions geist which is coming soon. not really hardware
some screens of geist2:
yeah moog is tempting, i've never owned one but i'm going to go with iMini for now. If i see a moog that fits my budget i'll grab it
Actually the bass station 2 is probably the best I can find in my price range..
Great news about G2!
Hardware: Moog Sub Phatty.....or according to budget a Novation BS2
Soft synth: I can find my way with Analog and Operator in Ableton Live9
iOS: Cyclope, Gadget mainly...although there are many good Bass presets to twist in various synth apps.
App-wise I think you're on the right track with isem and imini, and I bet the bass station 2 in the hardware world will be great. The clips I've heard of the Sub phatty sound very cool. The moog minitaur is also meant for doing exactly what you're describing, that may be worth checking out too.
And for a total left field suggestion- solid body ukulele bass, particularly the new kala sub 5 string. check out this clip- so much sub going on there that a high pass filter probably would be a big help! The player in this clip is pretty sloppy, but the high end is easy to tame with cleaner technique and a little high cut on the eq. Make sure you listen through headphones or good speakers, when I had this on in the car I actually got embarrassed because I thought I sounded like one of those yo-yos with the bass coming out of their car from miles away!
http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/22607-quick-hit-kala-5-string-sub-u-bass
Is the Microbrute machina non-grata? :-)
iMini, 76 Synth, Sunrizer are all great synths if you're looking specifically for bass.
+1 for the microbrute! I use to own it a few months ago and its pretty powerful. You can create some pretty thick/heavy bass and synth sounds.Compact and versatile. I would have kept it but doing everything on my laptop or ios now.
I'd say Minitaur or Minibrute in the sub $1000 range. Also you can find Little Phatty and Sub Phatty under $1000 second hand.
I'm always impressed by iVCS bass sound
Oh yes, the Minitaur sounds amazing. The low lows it can make are irresponsible.
As much as I love the synths on my iPad, here is one of the reasons why I will never get rid of my analog gear:
@asnor impressive video...
Now I wonder if there are analog metronomes on the market which provide usb midi. Couldn't find anything yet.
You might be able to use the BeatStep Pro to do that, not sure.
@Peanutcram What aspect of that intrigues you?
@asnor I'm not sure actually but the idea catched me. The master clock slaving the digitals
I like the analog source. The form factor, haptic. A classic metronome itself has got character. Also the process of mic, amp, convert etc was new to me. Very inspiring.
Miami , if you turn wobble off and go for lower octaves is unparalleled for iOS sub bass
Chiang mai , Brussels , Wolfsburg all can be tweaked for low to mid range basses
Add arpeggist to create some very nice riddims:)
Amazes me what could be done with such old technology; and yet, with all our high tech'ry, we have trouble syncing between iOS apps.
I've been eyeing the Volca Keys-- waiting til bills aren't backed up. :-D
Korg Gadget- Dublin
BTW, I was messing with the Microbrute at lunch today and managed to get some nauseating bass out of it; wearing headphones no less. Not sure how it happened, but I felt like I was going to hurl. Ok, so it was only in my head. :-)
I just discovered that the monotribe v2.1 now supports CV note/gate. Works perfectly with the BSP. Sounds like a good option because they are cheap second hand and actually do bass quite well.
@touchconspiracy
I will try that Miami trick, sounds good, cheers
The Keys is the champ of the bunch for sure. Great bass actually. Definitely no Minitaur though.
TE's OP-1 can do bass (and other nice things) well, and would fit the spirit of your portable arsenal. Could also help with the sequencing, sampling, effects and (tape) arranging duties, but it would be most expensive kit (not counting laptop) among the bunch.