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Nah, I'm well-balanced, one on either
Impaktor is great, but I never use it, either. It doesn't need midi. All it needs is to sit in the Effect slot of Audiobus so that you could run any sequenced sound source into it. Right now, that isn't possible.
Is this an ability that Beepstreet can add? That would actually make it useable for me.
Midi clock. Right now i have to export outside (samplr / loopy) and i m soo lazy...
However, great app ....
Does anybody know if BeepStreet read these forums?
They probably Google their name every morning with their coffee but sending them a link wouldn't be such a bad idea.
One use way to use Impaktor that has worked for me in past is to record a beat with it, and then export each drum individually to Auria and then use Drumagog to replace the sounds with sampled drums. It's an easy way to get a velocity-sensitive performance of a drum part, with real human variation.
I purchased a piezo, wired it to a 1/4 inch jack, applied electrical tape, and coated it with plastic. It's quite durable and depending upon what you strike it with or brush it against, you'll get different characteristics. You can use an iRig type setup or plug it into a USB interface. Since it's quite small in size, you can use a pencil or any other small object. Alternatively, you can attach (clamping or taping) it to a small hand drum, or stringed instrument and it'll pickup those vibrations. Any sort of appliance with a running motor such as fans, refrigerator, washing machine, can also be a source.
Now that ... would be cool.
There must be some app that converts the volume of individual hits (transients) into simple midi velocity. If so that would be a variation on this technique but without needing Drumagog or being restricted to its drums. You could just using the midi in various drum apps.
I don't know of any audio-to-MIDI apps currently, but Auria Pro should be able to do it, when it eventually appears.
MIDImorphosis would work, but it's made mainly for guitar and bass tones:
http://audiob.us/get/292/MIDImorphosis
I don't think that would work. I tried it with thumbjam's audio to midi mode too but it wasn't working very well either. I sent a link to this discussion to the dev and hopefully we can get some feedback soon. I'll let you Know if he replies to me directly.
Hi guys,
Impaktor "senses the whole spectral content of incoming transient sound", thats why there is no MIDI. It's not about velocity but dozens of other nuances. I could use sampled transients triggered by MIDI, but this would destroy the concept and make the app somehow flat. Thats why Korg Wavedrum lacks MIDI as well. It's designed as live instrument. To be honest I didn't want to implement a sequencer at the beginning
I'm out of the iOs world for the moment, but I will be back. I want to make a midi-centric synthesiser and Impaktor 2, both based on the engine I'm working on (circuit + physical modelling - high oversampling).
Oh, I'm monitoring this thread, don't worry! But really, it seems that something like voxkit which is already optimized for this kind of recognition would be the most likely candidate. Seems like a simple modification to output note with velocity based on the input (if it doesn't already do it). What do you think @SecretBaseDesign?
Voxkit doesn't really work all that effectively, it certainly isn't as reliable as Impaktor when it comes to tracking and latency.
I have and enjoy all your apps/vsts
And I'm very pleased to hear that there is incoming projects !
I might just buy this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Alesis-PercPad-Perc-Pad/dp/B004NMQ2A8
Also worth noting: SeekBeats lets you design your sounds so that velocity can effect any parameter at all, not just volume.
So the two combined could be pretty great.
Here's a fairly good article on contact mic use, equipment and common pitfalls.
https://experimentalnetwork.wordpress.com/creative-practice-primer-2/creative-practice-primer-techniques-and-technologies-contact-microphones/
@giku_beepstreet I know you were listening in!
I agree with the midi part. It is hard to tweak sounds while having both hands busy playing. I like the built in sequencer but ended up looping in loopy and it is absolutely fine, it also improves my timing without the quantiser!
Also Giku, it would be nice to have like 4 modules and be able to decide what part of the frequency spectrum they rispond to via some kind of range slider. Could really do away with the sequencer to gain space but I understand people like that for stand alone jamming.
Thanks for an awesome app. In my top 3 any day.
@Matt_Fletcher_2000
Funny just last night I was using ambient sound from tapping on a samplepad (perpad's cousin) to trigger impaktor. :-) Those little 4 pad Alesis boxes are great for remote ios musicmaking IMO.
@giku_beepstreet -- Oh yes, I hope you come back soon! I love me some Sunrizer and Impaktor. And the future may bring us Impaktor 2 and a MIDI centric synth? That sounds really good; are we talking 6 months, a year, or more? Either way, I hope that you can work it all out. And, good luck!
Yep. Impacktor is unique and a thing of beauty. I like the fact it's unpredictable and not merely listening for velocity.
Thanks @giku_beepstreet for stopping by and answering! I'm looking forward to Impaktor 2.0! And I understand that MIDI can't entirely do justice to the way Impaktor handles the incoming audio. But it would be a very useful addition that would greatly expand the ways the app could be used. Any comment about supporting multiple inputs in the future?
So I want to make 2 apps sharing very similar engine. One as live instrument (Impaktor 2) and one for MIDI.
I do the following at least once a week: work on something in iSequence, use Sunrizer on iOS and laptop, and search "Beepstreet" on the AppStore, looking for your new one.
Impaktor is the one I know the least about, because I've saved it up: it's so cool that I'm still not cool enough for it yet. I do know enough to put it in the hands of my kids, my students, and every musician I know. So I'm just saying, whatever you feel like making, and thanks.
How's the sensitivity of the pads? Can you get different velocities easily?
Funny. I have played with Impaktor a little, but feel almost the same. There are one or two apps that I make interesting things with -seemingly by accident- whenever I open them, but can hardly believe it (not knowing what the hell I'm doing) and thus, weirdly, put them away again quickly, as though I might be offending some unknown Gods. Human beings; very odd.
This is the quantiser at play. I think this app is great for kids especially because of this.
I should add in velocity sensitivity to Voxkit; was on the to-do list, but pushed to the back burner because of other projects. A few weeks left in the summer; maybe I'll take a day, and knock it out (need to update the AB library anyway).
@richardyot -- the app should be quite responsive (I had one person who was looking for ways to slow it down -- using a piezo transducer to keep a bass drum beat, and he felt that it was so quick, it was rushing him). Maybe something funky going on to slow it down (perhaps triggering a sample that has a slow attack?).
Yes! My use case, is that I have some Akai MPD pads and want to augment it with a midi kick pedal. But I don't want to drag along a midi drum module just to convert my kick pedal trigger impulse to one midi note.
If VoxKit could convert the audio signal from a drum pad's impulse into a velocity sensitive midi note that would solve it!!