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MAKING A HOUSE SONG: F/x / EFFECTS : Before or After?

RUST( i )KRUST( i )K
edited August 2015 in General App Discussion

When making a song, how much do you consider your song and the live F/x a DJ would want to use? A

Do you take that in consideration when making a song? Are you using too many effects?

In the old days, producers released many more "dubs" and "mixes" of songs. Now, songs come premade with many effects.

DO YOU CONSIDER THE FACT THAT A DJ WILL WANT TO APPLY HIS OR HER OWN CUSTOM LIVE PERFORMANCE EFFECTS IF THEY PLAYED YOUR TRACK?

Are you making your song less probable to get play in clubs if you have applied too many F/X?

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  • RUST( i )KRUST( i )K

    I am interested in the input from this thread.

  • CalCuttaCalCutta

    "Dubs" typically meant a lack of vocals and actually had more effects on them than whatever other version was released.

    This is an interesting subject. I would think it's not so much effects but the amount of parts playing simultaneously in a track, that will dictate if a DJ wants to play it or not. If there's 50 things going on at once, it's not going to sound good mixed with something else.

    On the flipside, that alone shouldn't be a guide to how you write the track, as the composition may sound better with all those elements. Take Aphex Twin for example, he's one of the most celebrated producers in electronic music history, but most of his material is way too busy and adventurous (time changes, phase shifts, etc.) for most DJ's to play it, let alone try to blend it with something else.

  • RUST( i )KRUST( i )K

    @CalCutta said:
    "Dubs" typically meant a lack of vocals and actually had more effects on them than whatever other version was released.

    This is an interesting subject. I would think it's not so much effects but the amount of parts playing simultaneously in a track, that will dictate if a DJ wants to play it or not. If there's 50 things going on at once, it's not going to sound good mixed with something else.

    On the flipside, that alone shouldn't be a guide to how you write the track, as the composition may sound better with all those elements. Take Aphex Twin for example, he's one of the most celebrated producers in electronic music history, but most of his material is way too busy and adventurous (time changes, phase shifts, etc.) for most DJ's to play it, let alone try to blend it with something else.

    I thought it was interesting as well. It is definitely a little more inside baseball then some thread topics. By that I mean, about music, not tech stuff or settings.

    I think that effects are sometimes over used by the inexperienced music producer.

    I guess it comes down to the intention of where the music is going to be played/performed and if it is overlooked.

    I am guilty just as much.

    But a great song that also allows the DJ to really do some sweetness with it live is the holy grail.

    Some people do rely a bit too much of F/x.
    Much like a guitarist who relays on effects over abilities.

    But, I won't start an argument about Jimmy Page on this thread. (wink)

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