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GADGET : Divine Comedy, Romance, or Tragedy?
Why is GADGET so polarizing? I don't mean causing animosity. I just mean, why is there such extreme views on it?
I have seldom seen an app that has such an all or nothing, love/hate user or fan base.
What make GADGET such a pivotal app that includes or excludes so many at such wide degrees?
Is it psychological? Do some people feel constrained -- in a box so to speak?
Or is it the U.I.? (LOVE or HATE)
Is it the all easy use of MIDI / Piano roll with no configuring of moody apps and connections?
Are you an avid GADGET user?
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I find I only use Gadget for making loops and then export them to other apps. Gadget is easy to use, has a wide choice of sound source and is easy to export to other apps.
Gadget also seems rock solid....never had any issues
Well, the title caught my eye because it's about gadget of course!
I was a late Gadget adopter ( November 2014). I was on the fence about it for a long time because when it came out I had an iPad 3 and iPhone 5. Because my son monopolised the iPad 3 for minecraft , it was rare I got to use the iPad 3 for music and actually I found it a bit sluggish. Occasionally I used it to route a few synths together with some fx apps via AB for ambient pieces, but my main work consisted of using the iPhone for Nanostudio and using acp to bring in synths such as sunrizer, breaks from glitchbreaks and one shot drum hits etc via audioshare.
I was quite happy but felt I needed more power, more centralisation.. A more contained and self sufficient environment, I like acp and AB but it's a bother to constantly route and export and import, it slowed me down.
Then I got an iPad mini retina brand new for an exceptionally good price and Gadget went on sale at its lowest ever price.
I trust Korg and just purchased gadget, took a deep breath and dived in.
My first impressions was that the UI was gorgeous and very very easy to navigate. I tested some of the Gadgets and was blown away by the sheer power and quality of the sounds. I also liked the "distilled" way the synths were presented and thought the fx were were cool.
It took me about ten minutes to figure out how composition was to take place and immediatly found that the "scenes" method was more suited to me than the linear sequencing to be had with Nanostudio , BM2 and cubasis.
This all made for an extremely fast workflow and a far more satisfying output beyond my wildest iOS dreams.
Gadget just saves so much time yet, still enables integrity for ones own crafting and production.
Since buying Gadget, it has literally made at least 95% of my earlier apps redundant, that doesn't mean they are not good, it's just that because I have everything I now need within Gadget there is no need for much else. I bring in stuff from Glitchbreaks, Audioshare and occasionally use Arpeggist to create melodies, but now I've found I don't even need that because I'm developing some technique after all this time.
I read a lot of gripes about some missing features but they mostly don't affect me.
Gadget just suits me and serves my particular production style perfectly. Even if it had audio tracks , I don't think it would make much difference for me. I just settled into the app and love it when more Gadgets come out.
As a result my app expenditure is almost non existent these days and it is now rare that I get excited over new apps. It would take another sequencer or Daw App to come out before I'd rush to the AppStore but, it would have to be exceptional because Gadget IS a hard act to follow.
Im still being slow and cautious with Gadget, I hardly even record automations yet, it truly has stood the test of time with me and I'm just exclusively focused on mastering it, and I'm in no hurry, as the app develops, I do too, and just hope that Korg remain committed to it too.
Here is one of my earliest Gadget pieces if anyone is interested
I loved gadget when I had an iPad Air. It sucks on my ipad3. I don't like that I can only control one gadget by external midi at a time. I love everything else about it. It's automation is awesome. Bump up the swing really high then freeze your drum track then drop the swing back down and your drum track keeps it's swing.
I love that I can still open the first tracks I made with gadget on a new iPad.
I want more new gadgets.. iM1 is great. Bring in iElectribe or the Er1 and it will be killer.
Bilabao is awesome.
I'll take a stab at the question, though I haven't noticed the same amount of polarization as the OP.
When you use Gadget by itself you don't have to contend with MIDI clock sync, which is one of the most persistent, annoying problems in ios music making. :-) My guess is this is where much of the love comes from, because Gadget solves a big problem. It also does a lot of other things really well (great sounding synths, drum machines, nearly a full blown self contained DAW).
However, when you use Gadget by itself, you are walled off from the wonderful, creative, fun, zany world of all other ios music making apps that everyone loves. In other words, you're separated from the ones you love. :-) This is perhaps where the haterade (if it exists) comes from. (There's of course no need for this separation as Gadget plays well with the rest of the ios world)
Bump up the swing really high then freeze your drum track then drop the swing back down and your drum track keeps it's swing.
That's a great tip! Swing is global in Gadget (fine in most cases) but this is a workaround to get different swing between gadgets.
@RustiK I think you may be being a little click-baitey with this one my friend. I imagine on the bell curve of love and hate almost all devs would like to achieve the profile and popularity of the Gadget brand....
Solid it is.
What kind of loops do you use if for?
Just drums?
Synths -- what kind or sound?
I am just wondering the preference of doing it on Gadget vs something else.
I love making a loop in gadget with drum/bass/pads/leads.... then exporting the tracks to samplr and jam with it
works well with sector too
there s nothing like gadget to compose on ios , maybe auria pro ? ...
Yah and most users would love to get a new app as good and robust as gadget.
I find composition and form to one of the biggest challenges when working in Gadget. I can't even focus on fun stuff like automating MIDI CCs because I'm obsessed with finding solutions to this problem. These days, I'm doing most of my composing in front of Gadget, using other apps.
Drums, bass, keys and ambient loops. Gadget has so much to go at sound wise
I have loads of sound sources other than Gadget, but other methods I've tried can be more time consuming. Say I use some of my synths to create a rhythm loop using AB. First I have to set up AB, my synth apps and MiMiX. Set up my midi channels, levels etc. make sure everything works. Then I have to switch between apps often to fine tune everything and finally record and trim the loop.
Gadget takes way less time to set up. Gadget saves it all nicely for later tweeking . Gadget lets me send the whole output to other apps, or each sound source for adding effects later to individual parts.
Gadget just makes life easier for the lazy (me), or person with limited time. Gadget causes less stress than getting multiple apps to work smoothly in AB.
Down side is that gadget does not let me add my favourite sound sources directly. Apps such as iProphet, SynthQ and TF7 make sounds that I struggle to get within Gadget. If only gadget would let a bit more of the outside app world in to its fold.
It's just a tool, but a tool that gives you with pretty much everything required to finish a track (prior to mastering).
Quite a lot of people are using the presets exclusively and the samples that come with Abu Dhabi and Bilbao. Also, the stock London Kits seem to be used a lot too, so there can be a 'sonic homogeneity' to a lot of the stuff created in Gadget. (check out the Gadget cloud...)
For me, the automation is the key to getting interesting results, as is making custom kits / looking at velocity variations.
I love Gadget, but weirdly have never finished a full song with it. Audio tracks would fix that one, so I can add some recorded madness.
Hehe i heard a gadget track on that Horseman cartoon.
Two bars of whatever from whatever app can be imported into Bilbao or abudhabi easily. One user told me he figured a way to reassemble 8 bars by placing them on different Bilbao pads and set record of that scene instance to 8 bars...
Where there is a will there is a way..
Of course would be easier with audio tracks or longer length sample import
But perhaps the new Korg teaser has something to do with this..
Polarizing? I thought the vast majority here loves Gadget. It's pretty rare that someone writes something like "I hate Gadget".
I hate Gadget
wow.
What I mean is opposite views or feelings. That's why I stated, NOT CAUSING ACTUAL ANIMOSITY.
"Conflict" in the traditional literary sense of the word. Hence the title of the thread using the literary terms most easily associated with choices.
I also include myself in this conflict with Gadget. It is love-hate.
No where in my post did I say only people "ON THIS FORUM" love or hate Gadget.
I also addressed reasons for each and how they played a role in how people feel.
I am speaking generally. My sample mainly consists of people in the "flesh and blood" world, people I know in the industry, and ALL of the other places I read or hear back and forth on an app.
I really find no value in trying to debunk or discredit a thread post based on 5 words out of nearly 130. Personally, I generally respond to the portions of the post I find relevant or feel I can contribute to. Otherwise, if I find a thread that is so "incorrect", I simply move on to the next thread. It's about the music.
As a MUSIC forum, I don't into nit-picking as if this were a political website, debate club, or social foray. I am a figurative person. I often forget that people are often literal, obtuse, or just plain confrontational. I will be more conscious of that from now on.
Only joking
Wasn't talking to you ...................... LOL
xoxo
;-)
It's a tragedy that it doesn't have a better way to input notes, especially when Korg has Kaoss Pads in their arsenal. What are thinking? It's sitting right there in front of their face, right there in their other apps. SMH.
Yup.
Throw in IElectribe as a Gadget.
Allow all Korg synth apps to be Gadgets.
NAOW
Who's being hostile?
To be able to record in is the missing thing, so you can play along to your Gadget masterpiece. Importing bits and slitting them in like some audio jigsaw loses spinet naivety, or even sponge naivety, or quite possibly (at this point I admit defeat by the iPhone predictive text nazi)
General>keyboarddraftsaved>autocorrection;)
Keep going Monzo, this is great material!
A new way of getting the lyrics for that hit song!
Shhh! Don't give away the secrets..
I suppose it replaces the psychedelic drug induced songs of the sixties lol
Gadget got background audio..
Record your whatever it is your doing into cubasis with gadget in the background but ensure its not hooked up to AB...
Just means you then acp into Bilbao, you could even trim the bars within cubasis and export each individually..
Where there's a will...there's a way
All depends on how bad u want to add stuff from other apps to gadget innit:)