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microTERA or Nave?

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  • @shortbus said:
    I'm gonna get one or the other. Which one would you choose if you had to pick one?

    I like that microTERA has a 32 step step-sequencer and an arpeggiator plus effects including distortion, phaser, delay, chorus and reverb.

    I've also always wanted to try a Waldorf synth.

    I am not a big fan of NAVE. The sound quality is great. However, my ear hears a hiss in the distance with the majority of sounds / patches generated by NAVE. I know it is a not a popular opinion. There is just something that is redundant and "low grade" distracting distortion .

    Great interface though.

  • edited February 2015

    @rhcball said:
    I've held off on Nave even though I pine for the speech synthesis, on account of half the reviews saying it doesnt run very well/crashes a lot. Can anyone say whether it runs well enough on a 4th gen ipad? Would be helpful if appstore reviews were forced to include specs...

    I'm running it on an iPad2 and it's never crashed once. In fact I'm able to run it through Audiobus with additional effects, into GarageBand.

    @RustiK said:
    I am not a big fan of NAVE. The sound quality is great. However, my ear hears a hiss in the distance with the majority of sounds / patches generated by NAVE. I know it is a not a popular opinion. There is just something that is redundant and "low grade" distracting distortion .

    The only time I experience distortion in a synth app is when a particular patch overloads the CPU on my old pad. But this app runs perfectly for me and I can't recall it happening with Nave, I might test out a few patches later though to test this.

  • edited February 2015

    Thanks for the feedback on the 4th gen & Nave, just got it and it's very nice.

    Edit: It's crashed on me twice & all the audio dropped out once (I'm on ios 8. But it seems worth it anyhow, though its hard to get the speech synthesis to sound right...

  • @musikmachine said:
    MicroTera wavetables into Nave = Much joy?

    I just want to confirm...this isn't actually possible, is it?

  • @CalCutta said:

    I just want to confirm...this isn't actually possible, is it?

    If you mean loading wavetables into Nave it should be, you can scan through the waveforms of imported stuff but not sure about length (although Waldorf seem to consider single waveforms as tables in the manual). If you mean creating wavetables i don't know on ioS, i've only used AS for editing.

    @Hiss the noise, spectrum and brilliance parameters do introduce a lot of extra harmonics, or remove them but Nave does change the character of the imported waveform quite a bit, i was trying to work out how to preserve the original sound but i don't think it's possible with Nave, it's almost like it downsamples it.

  • edited February 2015

    Nave's crashing is such a shame! I love the synth so much- it's probably my favorite in terms of sound and interface- but it just can't be used for actual production- unless you are persistent for several takes and get lucky- and forget live-

    it's interesting when people claim it never crashed on them- I have to wonder how much they actually use it- you may not get a crash with 3 minutes of preset previewing- but there is NO WAY anyone can get Nave to work in an extended session- without crashes-

    there are no magic lucky ipad users with a crash free version of Nave-

  • I was very fortunate to get one of the crash free versions thankfully but then I paid extra for the crash free IAP. Oh wait! Hard to say why some of us do not have this problem , but I am pretty sure it is working without crashing at all that I can recall. What ever you do differently certainly is not liked By the app, just not sure what you are doing that causes it.

  • @setAI said:
    it's interesting when people claim it never crashed on them- I have to wonder how much they actually use it- you may not get a crash with 3 minutes of preset previewing- but there is NO WAY anyone can get Nave to work in an extended session- without crashes-

    there are no magic lucky ipad users with a crash free version of Nave-

    Nave is my second most used synth (after Thor) and despite having an ancient iPad 2 I can run it through effects, via Audiobus, and record into GarageBand without any issues at all (at least before GB started playing up). I can't do this with some of my other synths: Mitosynth, iMS20, iMini etc. which is why I'm such a fan of Nave.

    I've had it for at least a year and it has never, ever crashed. And I'm not lying or trying to pull the legs over anyone's eyes.

  • edited February 2015

    Monzo we should feel both special and lucky! We are obviously much better humans the way I see it! I am flattered.

  • I guess we are supposed to believe that Monzo has a special extra terrestrial iPad or something- if your ipad2 really does run Nave with no crashes- I and many other people would be willing to buy your ipad for double the original price-

  • edited February 2015

    We are extraterrestrial, you figured us out Darn! All of your iPad belongs to us.

  • @setAI said:
    I guess we are supposed to believe that Monzo has a special extra terrestrial iPad or something- if your ipad2 really does run Nave with no crashes- I and many other people would be willing to buy your ipad for double the original price-

    I'm always open to offers, and I'll throw in my magic pen that never runs out of ink.

  • there are no magic lucky ipad users

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  • @setAI said:
    Nave's crashing is such a shame! I love the synth so much- it's probably my favorite in terms of sound and interface- but it just can't be used for actual production- unless you are persistent for several takes and get lucky- and forget live-

    it's interesting when people claim it never crashed on them- I have to wonder how much they actually use it- you may not get a crash with 3 minutes of preset previewing- but there is NO WAY anyone can get Nave to work in an extended session- without crashes-

    there are no magic lucky ipad users with a crash free version of Nave-

    Standalone? I've not had a single crash either that i can remember, it's one of my most used synths, i do a lot of editing with it and have used it with AudioShare, AudioBus done some recording with Auria, it's of the more stable synth apps on my iPad...

  • I have run Nave for long periods of time on my old iPad3, and never had a crash. I am now running it on iPad Air 2 with 8.1.3 for quite a while, and never had a crash.

    @setAl, have you cleared the app's cache and hard rebooted your iPad?

  • edited February 2015

    I personally don't have that many problems with nave- when I run Nave- I always run with a clean system- freshly booted- no other apps- external hardware recording-

    but I've had occasional crashes like everyone else- but for me they've only happened when they're supposed to happen- when editing and modulating wavetable parameters and using the internal recorder - you get crashes- period- Waldorf has addressed this- it's the RAM- overrun errors caused by the wavetable engine- it's why there's no audio rate FM modulation- it's why there's crash reporting in the app settings- it's why the VST version has been released early- this is all common knowledge-

  • edited February 2015

    You are amusing ,I give you that.
    No crashes what so ever here. Does that mean it could never happen?mm, no. It just has never done so in all of my uses extended or short. If it ever should I can of course happily report the issue. Yes I guess I am in fact a " lucky ,magic, IPad user". We do exist, we do, we do. If you ever want to meet in person to see such a phenomenon just follow the magic unicorn to the end of the magic rainbow and take your first right to the land of IPad wonder. The boys in the crew will be waiting for you! Off to do more magic, Shazaam!!!

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