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Second video of mine to get MILLIONS of views
9.9 million views in only three months . Last one got 13 million. https://youtube.com/shorts/sv8e7ghcap0?si=AO4xeyo1WADPrEj1
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Congrats!
So who is getting all the money from the views? You?
Hell> @Simon said:
Hell no! First of all I was doing impressions of copyrighted material. Second of all it’s not my own channel. I have a longer video on my own channel but it’s gotten only 181,000 views . Which isn’t bad but the other guy hit the jackpot . I actually know him but legally it’s known as “eminent domain” and he doesn’t have to give me anything. It’s just bragging rights basically . I DID get paid rather well for the original TV appearance though .
So it’s not a huge payday maybe a few hundred dollars for him once it hits 10,000,000.
Thanks @HotStrange !
Congratulations. As new to iOS and social media (as Gavin knows lol) I have ambition but this makes me think “I started so late”
I need to take a class just on making videos let lone production
Good for you man. Are you a celebrity incognito?
Really? Is that all a YouTuber gets for 10 million views?
Well Steve Harvey is prolly making 0 over these 10m clicks.
@dreamcartel : Ha, not even close . To repeat , it wasn’t my channel so I have no idea exactly how the algorithms work. I’ve looked it up a few times.. It’s STILL confusing
@Simon : Unf
@AlmostAnonymous : Yeah Steve just seems incapable of ever making a wrong move somehow
Wait… you’re Eminem’s Dad?
Ha ha no .. Ememem’s dad is long gone . But before this video there was another that got 13 million hits that said “Eminem’s Dad” and that’s what people would jokingly call me at karaoke which was how I got on the show to begin with. So this person who made the short (jazz pianist w Pharaoh Sanders BTW) called me that too.
Why would you bother to do any YouTube content for that amount...?
@Simon : How much are they paying you to comment on here ? 🤪😂🤣
As far as I go, I just use Youtube to show off my OP-1 Field. 🤣 I cbf with views, follower counts, monetisation, etc. Too much video editing work, and not enough focus on just me shutting my mouth and making music.
Good question lol. In reality the amount someone gets paid depends on what niche they're in, how many ads they have in their videos, whether people are watching behind an ad blocker or not, how long they typically watch for, etc.
If a video has no ads, the creator is paid nothing, if people watch behind an ad blocker they are paid nothing. Shorts were not monetized for a long time and are now poorly monetized. Even the most successful Shorts creators with huge engagement and long view time per videos make only around $1000 or slightly more per 1 million views on Shorts.
To share my own case, I have a lot of videos with very few ads and some with lots of ads. My cpm (how much youtube pays me per 1000 views) is a mere £3, less than 4 bucks. Insanely, according to Google, this seems to be a decent cpm.
But anyone can see by looking at the average views an iOS music YouTuber gets that, indeed, we must be crazy to be trying to do this in any kind of serious way. It only really makes sense as a hobby worth devoting a few hours a week to. It doesn't make financial sense. Free apps are not appropriate payment, as working for minimum wage to earn the money to buy those apps yourself would involve much less time than learning about those apps with a view to making vids, than making those vids etc etc involves. Unless you have a lot of free time and don't need the money, why would you bother indeed?
And in fact, that's exactly what has happened, as all the abandoned or semi-abandoned channels in our niche attests. People have been asking themselves, why bother.
Audio Dabbler (recently revived but was in hibernation for a long time), Mobile Music Pro, Daveypoo, iPad Beatmaking, Dylan Paris, Dischord, DJ Puzzle, Seonn are just a few examples of channels that used to put out videos regularly but now either don't operate at all, rarely put out vids, or do other stuff like desktop apps or hardware instead. There are lots more, and unless something changes in terms of direct support from viewers and devs, this list will grow longer yet.
No probs! I wasn't commenting on your post btw, I was more adding something to Simon's 'Why bother' comment.
I totally agree with you that it's terrible really how much value is attached to metrics like view counts, subscriber counts, etc. So much great stuff - including btw early vids of creators who only later gained large audiences - flies under the radar.
And yes, it is great when art is done for art's sake. But when people are devoting their life or a significant part of their life to it to it - and there is a lot of value in videos on apps, for example, being done by ppl who are dedicated to that full time - then they need to be able to make a reasonable enough living from it unless they have enough income from other sources. I was in that last camp until recently but am now in more precarious situation financially, which means I have to take a really cold, hard look at things
Also, making youtube vids on iOS apps, for example, is not all art, not all joy. Not even remotely. There are a lot of aspects to it that for many anyway, are pure grind and tedium. Of course that is mostly hidden away from public awareness, and to some extent the public want it hidden, as the reality is painful to deal with.
But yes, it's a complex situation, deeply complex.
Making a good YouTube video is video production. Would anyone go to the trouble and expense of making a TV show and giving it to a network for airing without payment up front?
A network says "yes, this show will rate a certain amount and so we'll pay you this much to make it".
YouTube seems to say "make the show at your expense, give it to us for free, and you will get a few bucks if you are lucky to have a huge amount of views".
It is a lousy deal.
It really is Simon. Youtube do well from it because they have the numbers on their side. Lots of small creators making peanuts still adds up to a lot of money for youtube. But those individuals are still earning peanuts, and in many cases are working extemely hard for those peanuts.
Oh, I feel like you misinterpreted what I said, I'm guessing you read it too quickly perhaps or there was some comprehension error. You said:
'I’m sorry to hear that making YouTube videos in this niche doesn’t bring joy to you and that there isn’t any art to it.
I’m sorry that it’s such a grind and that it’s painful to deal with.'
If you look back at my message you'll see I said 'making youtube vids on iOS apps, for example, is not all art, not all joy. Not even remotely. There are a lot of aspects to it that for many anyway, are pure grind and tedium'.
That is not at all the same as saying it brings no joy, there is no art to it, it's a grind etc. I was saying that there are aspects of it that are not enjoyable, there are aspects that are a grind etc. There are other aspects that are enjoyable. But, objectively speaking, there are many aspects that have very little to do with making art making music etc. I think anyone who reflects on this for even a few minutes can realise that. There's a lot of admin, for example. There is at times a lot of reading manuals, beta testing things, reporting bugs, replying to comments etc. It's just not remotely the same as just sitting down and making art, that's my point.
Most iOS software review videos lack a song context imo. The Ableton, Akai or Elektron ecosystems all have genre experts and take in all the users who are looking for what to use to produce in their favorite genre.
I know that the incentives aren't as great as getting those sweet Thomann comissions like the hardware reviewers, but there is still potential with courses, memberships or mentorships, which can also have affiliate programs other iOS reviewers can promote and earn from.
Gavinsky, you seem to be into ambient music, why don't you use this context to show off plugins? You get views from other people interested in the genre who don't use iPads yet on top of those already knowing you. Instead of "plugin xy tutorial" titles you could do "create a hypnotic ambient track on the iPad using plugin xy".
I don't care about plugin features if I can see and hear the potential it has for my usecase, if it has potential for the music I'm making I will likely buy it.
@kirmesteggno that username is the best, I doubt many non-German speakers will get it 😄 (I always hated kirmesteggno...)
Me too, I already regret picking it, but if it makes people smile I'll keep it 🤪