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KingKORG Neo - 3 octave keyboard VA synth for a grand
I’m not feeling it Korg
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Looks cool and I thought the OG KingKorg is one of the best sounding VAs I’ve heard. But if I’m spending that much ($1100) I’d rather save up a couple hundred more for the Take 5.
The MicroKorg 2 on the other hand. THAT looks great.
Yep another disappointment from korg (Nautilus, Wavestate SE, Opsix SE and Kaoss Replay). They do seem a tad out of touch on the hardware front. The Gadget update was great though in my opinion!
They’re definitely more hit and miss lately which is a stark difference from their 2010s run of gear. I think the original trio of the WaveState format synths are great. What was the issues with the SE? I didn’t realize people didn’t like those. I know some friends that have the Wavestate and OpSix and they love them. The Replay is a disaster though.
This new KingKorg is definitely meh for me but will probably be great for touring musicians. The MicroKorg2 looks great though and was in dire need of an update. That’s a definite win for me.
The SE versions are just the same synths in slightly better boxes. The original synths were great as they came down in price, but there is much better value for money with other brands. For example: the Wavestate SE is basically a 4 timbral synth with admittedly a good feature set. Compare it against a Roland Juno X, another 4 timbral synth (yes admittedly they are different in their sound designs). The Roland has the same quality build and small screen like the Korg, but adds a professional built in power supply and much superior I/o! The Roland feels like they put in some decent features that pros want for the higher price than their lower price 4 timbral options. The Korg on the other hand, adds a better build, better keyboard and a case for their £1100 above the new Wavestate 2 smaller sibling.
I would have been tempted with an SE and still might when the price lowers, but at the initial price, it adds little. I would not buy the other models as I don’t like the keys. Even my Minilogue XD with its small keys feels better than the 3 octave keybed on the Wavestate cheap version. Much better keyboards to be had at less than £1800 mark (Juno X, Nord Wave 2). Even a Yamaha YC61 can be had for less and they have fantastic build quality and wonderful control over an iPad!
So, my opinion is that the SE boards are just underwhelming. The Opsix SE could have been great by making it two layers and better I/o. The Wavestate SE could have been great with a better screen or more controls and better I/o.
To be fair the Wave 2 is pretty much impossible to beat lol I’d love to have one.
I think the initial releases are excellent though. Basically everything Korg did from 2010-2020, with a couple of exceptions, was a hit. Seems like they’ve really hit a rough patch recently. Maybe the MicroKorg 2 will help turn the tides some.
I definitely would have got the Wavestate and Opsix if they have had keyboards I could stand or they would have made desktop versions. I know there is an aftermarket kit, but I don’t fancy going through that malarkey lol. I’m surprised the Opsix wasn’t as popular and had to be sold off cheap. I love some of Korgs software engines, but they either seem to go drastic plastic cheap, or gimp their better models. The Nautilus has great sounds, but why take away all the knobs and sliders and then put in a sub standard touch screen! I think Korg realised they made a mistake leaving off after touch too on the original Nautilus models.
Personally I think that the mid to high priced gear is not selling as well due to economic factors and the big companies are moving resources to the small box, hand music making market: SP404 etc. Yamaha seem to get this with the price of their new box, but Korg went to the high end with the Kaoss Replay, but with a very weak initial feature set.
Hopefully Korg are just going through a slight rough patch, as they really helped the market with their cheap analog boxes way before others on the market. I suppose you simply can’t have hit after hit forever. Look at Roland: they are producing some decent hits, but many still moan that they have seemingly left the analog market behind.
Super meh, rehash of old tech in Opsix shell. As usual all the influencer videos dropped like clockwork.
Nice to see some other company than Roland getting flak for re-packaging.
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I’ve not seen a single one saying it’s a lot of money for what it is.
True, Roland are masters at this
Not a surprise, they're incentivized not to. It's the best thing ever since 2013!
I've got say, even with the plastic body build and likely awful clanky keybed, there is a market for this....if only it was £300 or so less!
Right? It’s odd to me that they didn’t keep it in the same price range as the minilogue/XD, Wavestate, Opsix, etc…
Seems to fit that mold.
Yeah hopefully it’s just a rough patch. They’ve made some of my favorite synths of all time so I’m a big fan of Korg. It sucks to see them not doing well.
But yeah the mid range market for synths is suffering for sure. The people that can afford go big and get Moog Ones or the UDO stuff and the ones that can’t stay in the sub $500 range. With the economy being the way it is I don’t see that changing until the economy changes. I think software is gonna become huge again tbh. The analog wave from last decade seems to be winding down some and with iOS also getting bigger I think we may somewhat revert back to the software and midi controllers.
Hardware and analog won’t go away like it basically did in the 90s but it’s waning for sure. I also see minimalism rising more than ever so less people are hoarding gear and feeling the need to have 10 different synths. I know it’s not true for everyone, these are just things I’ve noticed.
Yep with the midi 2.0, the uptake of usb C and the continual reduction of the price of decent touch screen tech, I think there is a market for better controller keyboards that work better and simpler with iPads and laptops. Current controllers are either cheaply made or seemingly ignore iPads as a market: not surprised as Apple have not played nice with others in the past.
What I would really like to see is Yamaha, Korg, Roland and others make a standard for software that can be used in keyboards by all the companies: similar to what korg tried with the Minilogue XD digital oscillator and fx. If all the big companies did this, with an agreed standard, it could benefit them all long term. It will never happen though lol
I agree that it’s both not likely but desperately needed lol. But we can hope I guess 😅
I think there will at least be some innovation and new midi controller releases coming. And with logic for iPad I’m hoping there will be more iOS specific controllers coming as well. All we can do is wait and pester these companies until they do something 😂
Between the economy, iOS coming up more (and software in general again), I think the next couple years is gonna be interesting in the least
It just seems quite a bit too expensive (unless i’m missing something) for ten year old tech re-released in a cheaper case.
Maybe its price will plummet to the price of similar Korg Hardware, once initial sales to kingkorg fans have been done.
Maybe it sounds better than its price but I think I’m spoilt with nice sounding apps that cost 5% of its price.
Hot junk…hell to the nawl
King Korg is old, failed once, never was great and this isn’t much of an update.
It would be better to buy something powerful like Hydrasynth etc etc etc the list goes on
Novation Peak would absolutely destroy it…for 200-400 more dollars
I’d much rather buy a hydrasynth explorer and a malevolent synth for less money… at least you would have two great synths for the price of one terrible one
Kinda how I feel. For $599 or something this could be a really cool option for gigging musicians but $1100?? No way. The Take 5 isn’t much more expensive than that either.