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Sony ECM MS908C - will this mic work with iOS??? [Yes, it does.]

pbelgiumpbelgium
edited March 2025 in Hardware

Bit of a long shot, but does anyone have any experience with the Sony ECM MS908C mid-side stereo condenser microphone? Wondering if my iPhone (11 Pro) will recognise it if I plug it in using the headphone to lightning connector.

Update: It works! Used a TRS to TRRS connector into the Apple headphone to lightning connector. It also works with my old Sonoma GuitarJack 2 USB. Here's a test recording of some acoustic guitar on the 90 degree setting, completely unprocessed - sounds great! (Put Your Records On by Corrine Bailey Rae.)

Comments

  • uncledaveuncledave

    Hi. If the headphone to Lightning connector uses a 3.5 mm connector, it may support a mono mic input. You can likely test this with a pair of wired earbuds with a built-in mic. But it will not be able to handle a stereo input.

  • wimwim

    If it worked, I wonder how you would monitor if you needed to.

  • pbelgiumpbelgium

    @uncledave said:
    Hi. If the headphone to Lightning connector uses a 3.5 mm connector, it may support a mono mic input. You can likely test this with a pair of wired earbuds with a built-in mic. But it will not be able to handle a stereo input.

    Thanks for the reply. If I were to get a new iPhone/connector would it still not be able to handle a stereo input?

    @wim said:
    If it worked, I wonder how you would monitor if you needed to.

    Good point - I didn't think of that. Thanks.

  • uncledaveuncledave
    edited March 2025

    @pbelgium said:

    @uncledave said:
    Hi. If the headphone to Lightning connector uses a 3.5 mm connector, it may support a mono mic input. You can likely test this with a pair of wired earbuds with a built-in mic. But it will not be able to handle a stereo input.

    Thanks for the reply. If I were to get a new iPhone/connector would it still not be able to handle a stereo input?

    I'm pretty sure the iOS "mic" input is mono only. You'd need a "real" audio interface with 2 inputs to connect a stereo mic. Stereo mics are not very common, so I wonder how the Sony connects. Is it two XLRs, or a 1/4" TRS maybe?

    Edit: Hmm. I looked at your link. This mic uses a 3.5 mm TRS plug to input stereo audio to a camcorder; sort of like a headphone jack in reverse. This is very specific to camcorders. You'll have a lot of trouble finding an audio interface that accepts a stereo input like this.

  • u0421793u0421793

    I’ve got one of these mics (actually, two, one in almost new condition and one I had to repair and which ended up knackered much later anyway) – it’s really a rather superb mic, nice size, and good round sonorous sound to it

    I don’t know why everything online is saying it’s ‘for camcorders’, it was really at it’s heyday back in the days of the minidisc recorder, or just after the professional stereo pocket ‘walkman-like’ cassette recorder, and any adaptation to camcorder use would have come a lot later, the case doesn’t have the shockmounting a camera-mounted mic would have benefited from (although the elements themselves are well rubber shockmounted inside – talking of which, the two elements (one forward facing, the other sideways facing) are quite large for a mic this small, and are very good

    The output is a fairly standard mic audio through a, again, standard, stereo 3.5mm jack, which minidiscs and high-end very portable cassette recorders would have been happy with. It’s not 'plug-in powered' (which is a more modern low-volt way of powering a condenser mic to avoid having the need for an internal battery) – this takes an AA cell to power it, making it very easy to use

    I’ve used mine for live-streaming video by plugging it directly into one of the 3.5mm mic inputs of my Blackmagic ATEM Mini Pro, but before I had that and had a bigger more primitive ATEM, I’d take it in through one of the cameras, but for bringing it into an iPad or suchlike you’d need a thing that can take a standard 3.5mm stereo mic input and shove it back out as USB audio, I’ve done it with a Zoom H1 (and H2n which is a bit pointless as the H2n is itself a midside mic) but there’s plenty of devices which have a mic input and a USB output (such as cameras, audio recorders, and nowadays loads of cheap simple dongles that have a 3.5mm stereo socket input and USB output, but I’ve never tried those so can’t vouch for them, as I always had better alternatives

    Definitely try and get it up and running, it does sound good

  • pbelgiumpbelgium

    Thanks again @uncledave and many thanks @u0421793 for taking the time to give such a detailed response. I’ll check it out - ten quid and about an hours drive is worth the risk I think.

  • pbelgiumpbelgium

    Got it, and it works - check the opening post for details and to hear it.

    Thanks once again for convincing me to get it @u0421793! This mic was well worth the drive - it does sound very, very good indeed.

  • u0421793u0421793

    B)

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