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donuts records off beat
this is strange, can someone let me know why after recording this 4 bar bass, it shifts the beat?
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@guitarhero07 : it is probably phase preservation but since we can’t see the clock and don’t know the settings, it is hard to say.
If you could screen record on the device so we see the the entire screen that would help a still screen shots of the settings would be helpful.
Phase preservation (which can be turned off) keeps a loop being recorded lined up with what was playing when it was recorded.
For example, if you start recording during bar 3 of the phase cycle (usually the playhead of the longest playing loop), Loopy will adjust the start point when recording stops so that where you started recording will be at bar 3 (and so line up with the loops that were playing when you recorded)
thanks for the info, i checked and my phase preservation is on, i will try to record a screen and post it here if that will help,
Was the video’s explanation clear? Do you understand now what phase preservation does?
Pay attention to the playhead positions of playing clips when you make the screen recording. I think you will find that the new clip is being shifted to stay consistent with the clips that we’re playing.
yes the video was very informative, this morning i turned on my workstation and tried the same thing and looks to be working fine now, i chose a different base synth pad, i did not change anything else, and it all seems to work now, so that is strange
Maybe you are starting the recording consistent with the phase of the playing loops and yesterday the timing was different?
There are cases where what the phase cycle is not immediately obvious…particularly if the playing loops are out of phase with the clock or the new recording is longer than the phase cycle.
yesterday i tried at least 20 times trying to start at different phase with the drum loope i had going, i tried everything but to no avail, this morning i tried again with a different drum pad and it worked, in fact i kept trying different time phases and it adjusted accordingly as it should, i could not get it to not work like yesterday, i will keep my eye out and see if this happens again and note my steps
alright so im having the same issue again, i just cant figure out why my beat is being thrown off. i even cleared out all the donuts so its a single simple fresh start. phase preservation is turned on. here is a link video of my settings. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IRjoK3hip3g
whats mind boggling is that this happens randomly, everything was just fine and one day it works, and one day it doesnt.
PS: i tried to do a screen recording but there is so much lag and the audio keeps cutting off, so screen capture will not work.
@guitarhero07 : can you post a screenshot of of the sync settings ?
If you are recording to a click, you should probably turn off auto loop detection.
where can i find the sync settings?
also what do you mean by recording to a click? sorry im still learning
thanks for the help
not sure if this is what you mean by sync settings
Hi,
That is what I meant. There is a bit of a problem there in that you have made the MPK both a clock source and destination. No device should be both a clock source and destination.
My recommendation is to use Loopy as the source.
There may be some tension between using auto-loop detection when following clock. I suggest that you both fix the sync settings and turn off Auto Loop Detection.
oh my gosh thank you greatly, it worked, the thing is i never even went to the sync settings to set these, so not sure how this happened
well thanks for figuring this out.
@guitarhero07 : does this solve your Sequencer problems, too?
you mean when using the DAW tracks play at different times? if so i havent tried as i have just been using donuts to produce, i will try the daw and see if this was the cause
Yes, I am wondering if this is related to the problem you were having with the DAW mode.
i will test this and let you know,
quick update, last night my loops were out of sync again after changing the settings mentioned above, i tried everything and could not get the beat to sync, this morning i tried again and it all works fine, so something strange is going on here
Without seeing all the settings and a demonstration, it is very hard to advise. It is extremely rare for issues like this that aren’t connected to a setting being wrong.
Rarely, something happens at a system level in which case disconnecting everything, power-cycling external hardware and rebooting the iPad solves things.
Also, make sure auto-loop detection is off.
@guitarhero07 : a good practice if sync issues arise is to
The metronomes should be tightly aligned
Wow - After seeing this happen to someone else (it happened to me too!) I think this “auto loop detection” feature should be AXED!!! I had a frustrating 3 days leading to an event where I still couldn’t fix the problem, a trainwreck of a live show, and then 3 frustrating days afterwards pulling my hair out combing the forums, watching videos, asking chatGPT. Something is up with this “auto loop detection” hiding as an unfindable culprit - this issue should be addressed on the development level, maybe just get rid of it!
Not sure if you’ve fixed it yet - but Guitar hero - try turning off auto loop detection in the global settings! And on the development level - at least let us disable ALL global settings on the clip level!
If you have a problem , posting a demonstration and screenshots of the settings will usually lead to a quick diagnosis.
FWIW, ChatGPT is very hit-or-miss for researching an issue like this.
I agree chat gpt destroys credibility when it just acts like it knows the definitive answer when its just guessing
Im quickly learning that leaning into the loopy pro community is the surest way to make progress
In regards to the issue you had when you turned Auto-Loop Detection on, I think it is important to test your settings changes when you make them in order to make sure they do what you want them to do. That way you can back out of those settings while they are fresh on your mind.
my auto loop detection is off in clip settings, im still having this issue, one day its fine, the next day issue persists, im thinking this has to be a bug
i will try this next, thanks
@guitarhero07 : what you are describing is quite unusual. Is this only in situations where you are synching to external gear?
no it happens even if i use internal midi, i have tried everything i just cant get this to work, at times it works and other times it does not
i tried all of the above you mentioned to no avail.