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Sugar Bytes Dialekt Out on Desktop, Shortly to Be Released on iPad and iPhone!

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  • edited April 18

    @dendy said:
    I found it nice that there is this limitation-challenge that track types are fixed. I like it a lot. Less options, more creativity :-D This limitation is actually main reason why i am going to give it a chance :-D

    honestly, I agree. I think, especially in a groove box, limitations can breed creativity, plus something like this might force me out of my comfort zone. Battalion is super powerful, for example, but it's definitely overwhelming for me.

  • @sevenape said:

    @dendy said:
    I found it nice that there is this limitation-challenge that track types are fixed. I like it a lot. Less options, more creativity :-D This limitation is actually main reason why i am going to give it a chance :-D

    honestly, I agree. I think, especially in a groove box, limitations can breed creativity, plus something like this might force me out of my comfort zone. Battalion is super powerful, for example, but it's definitely overwhelming for me.

    Being forced out of your comfort zone is good, true, you can learn a lot. This kind of app was completely outside my comfort zone initially. I was never a groovebox person, I don't really do much stuff with beats, I don't really make 'tracks', more into making little musical nuggets that could be incidental music for radio or whatever. So this forced me to think and to do things in a totally different way than I normally do, and I ended up learning a lot as a result and enjoyed pushing myself in a different direction.

  • edited April 18

    @sevenape said:

    @dendy said:
    I found it nice that there is this limitation-challenge that track types are fixed. I like it a lot. Less options, more creativity :-D This limitation is actually main reason why i am going to give it a chance :-D

    honestly, I agree. I think, especially in a groove box, limitations can breed creativity, plus something like this might force me out of my comfort zone. Battalion is super powerful, for example, but it's definitely overwhelming for me.

    Same here! :-) Limitations can be fun, esepcially to get something going quick, which seems the focus of the app here. (And of you want more granular control, there are plenty of other apps for that.) Can’t wait for it to finaly show up in the app store.

  • edited April 18

    @dendy said:
    I found it nice that there is this limitation-challenge that track types are fixed. I like it a lot. Less options, more creativity :-D This limitation is actually main reason why i am going to give it a chance :-D

    It is very much a personal thing, but I think I’m more of the “limitation is good for creativity” school of thought in this case. Within these limits it seems to have a ton of creative options. In my own workflow I’m tired of tools that do everything gathering dust because there are too many options.

    Limitations means fewer decisions and for me, i get creating sooner.

  • @catbox said:

    @sevenape said:

    @dendy said:
    I found it nice that there is this limitation-challenge that track types are fixed. I like it a lot. Less options, more creativity :-D This limitation is actually main reason why i am going to give it a chance :-D

    honestly, I agree. I think, especially in a groove box, limitations can breed creativity, plus something like this might force me out of my comfort zone. Battalion is super powerful, for example, but it's definitely overwhelming for me.

    Same here! :-) Limitations can be fun, esepcially to get something going quick, which seems the focus of the app here. (And of you want more granular control, there are plenty of other apps for thats.) Can’t wait for it to finaly show up in the app store.

    Origins of this app, from what I know from the main dev, were all about getting things going quickly, and it was primarily designed initially with the thought that it would be good to have something fast and easy like this running on a phone

  • @Gavinski said:

    @sevenape said:

    @dendy said:
    I found it nice that there is this limitation-challenge that track types are fixed. I like it a lot. Less options, more creativity :-D This limitation is actually main reason why i am going to give it a chance :-D

    honestly, I agree. I think, especially in a groove box, limitations can breed creativity, plus something like this might force me out of my comfort zone. Battalion is super powerful, for example, but it's definitely overwhelming for me.

    Being forced out of your comfort zone is good, true, you can learn a lot. This kind of app was completely outside my comfort zone initially. I was never a groovebox person, I don't really do much stuff with beats, I don't really make 'tracks', more into making little musical nuggets that could be incidental music for radio or whatever. So this forced me to think and to do things in a totally different way than I normally do, and I ended up learning a lot as a result and enjoyed pushing myself in a different direction.

    I've been smitten by grooveboxes ever since the Roland MC-303 in the 90s I had one and loved it... I then started to build a little 'studio' and it just became too much to manage, I much prefer something self contained... That's why I am drawn to Koala I guess. I spent a lot of euros buying packs for the old 'Groovebox' app and I can honestly say it's what pushed me into making music on ios, so there will always be a place in my heart for a groovebox.

    as for making songs... As AudioPilz said on a bad gear once... Song mode is for boomers ;)

  • @Gavinski said:

    @catbox said:

    @sevenape said:

    @dendy said:
    I found it nice that there is this limitation-challenge that track types are fixed. I like it a lot. Less options, more creativity :-D This limitation is actually main reason why i am going to give it a chance :-D

    honestly, I agree. I think, especially in a groove box, limitations can breed creativity, plus something like this might force me out of my comfort zone. Battalion is super powerful, for example, but it's definitely overwhelming for me.

    Same here! :-) Limitations can be fun, esepcially to get something going quick, which seems the focus of the app here. (And of you want more granular control, there are plenty of other apps for thats.) Can’t wait for it to finaly show up in the app store.

    Origins of this app, from what I know from the main dev, were all about getting things going quickly, and it was primarily designed initially with the thought that it would be good to have something fast and easy like this running on a phone

    I mean I'm glad sugarbytes is thinking something like that cos Drum computer, whilst being a game changier, is somewhat of a hulking behemoth.

  • @catbox said:

    @sevenape said:

    @dendy said:
    I found it nice that there is this limitation-challenge that track types are fixed. I like it a lot. Less options, more creativity :-D This limitation is actually main reason why i am going to give it a chance :-D

    honestly, I agree. I think, especially in a groove box, limitations can breed creativity, plus something like this might force me out of my comfort zone. Battalion is super powerful, for example, but it's definitely overwhelming for me.

    Same here! :-) Limitations can be fun, esepcially to get something going quick, which seems the focus of the app here. (And of you want more granular control, there are plenty of other apps for that.) Can’t wait for it to finaly show up in the app store.

    me too! Should be properly fun.

  • @echoopera said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @echoopera said:
    Played with the Demo.

    It's cool and fun...but being limited to the predefined Instruments per Tracks is very unfortunate. I really want to use 8 Slice Tracks, or 4 Slice Tracks, 3 Chord Tracks, and 1 Percussion Track and organize my Tracks how I want to...but you are locked in to the Track and what type of instrumentation/sound it supports.

    I don't like be locked into a Box when I am creating, so I won't be buying the app until this limitation is removed. Like I said before 8 Tracks is fine. But let me choose what those 8 Tracks are going to be for my Groove. :)

    Please Free your Tracks @sugarbytes please :)

    I managed to find the response from the dev when I asked him why they didn't allow the user more freedom to assign tracks:

    "I would love to have all synthesizers available in all channels. unfortunately, with the framework I am working with, that would be impossible. I cannot use things like classes, where you have the code one time and can instantiate it multiple times."

    So yeah, it's a technical limitation with whatever way this has been designed, best not to hold your breath for an update enabling it

    Hahahah...sounds like they picked the wrong Framework to build a Groovebox upon :smiley:

    Talk about painting yourself into a corner.

    Now I have to decide if I want to expend the energy to let the Emperor know that he isn't wearing any clothes on IG, YT, and other areas more than I already have

    :blush:

    @wim said:
    What developer in their right mind uses a framework that doesn't support classes and objects?? And how could anyone pull off an app of this complexity without it?

    This is very perplexing.

    Perhaps its coded in pure C? But why? Masochism?

    Hahaha...it's called MasoBoxIsm....but seriously it's just bad bad bad Product Management.

    They will not be successful with this app...Grooveboxes should be blank slates of possibility when it comes to how people want to use them.

    Give us flexibility within the limitations of the app. Don't give us limitations based on inflexible excuses and lack of foresight within the app :wink:

    Guess SB won't be getting very much cash from users with this Dud of a release until this issue is fixed...if ever....

    Just to clear things up, it’s not about the C programming language, it was about their in-house framework and probably design choices.

    Most of the object-oriented languages are written in C. So… yeah! 🤭

  • Well, after scanning Gavins excellent video I agree with the criticism given here. It might be a fun drum/synth/percussion/whatever thing if it goes cheap on introduction but I doubt it will. UI looks good, big and chunky. Battalion is more petite.

  • periodically visiting the Sugar Bytes GmbH dev profile in the app store to see if this is out yet 👀

  • edited April 18

    I guess the choice was made to make all those randomizations work properly. I personally could do without any randomizations at all in exchange for freely assignable tracks.

  • Had a hours play with the demo today on Mac and Windows.

    I think my main use would be as an idea generator rather than a groovebox that’s how it feels to me. A bit like Ableton Note that you would build onto later.

    I like all the random options full and partial, the effects automation is cool and for live use great.

    I think maybe it was marketed wrong as a fully fledged groovebox akin to Drambo GR2 etc.

    If you expect all the bells and whistles in Dialekt that the bigger grooveboxes give don’t consider it, but as an ideas builder to send you off in new directions it’s quite a different beast.

  • @wim said:
    What developer in their right mind uses a framework that doesn't support classes and objects?? And how could anyone pull off an app of this complexity without it?

    This is very perplexing.

    Perhaps its coded in pure C? But why? Masochism?

    Speaking as a pro coder with experience going back a way… much of object orientation can be simulated by no more than passing around a pointer to a data structure (often called this in OO languages).

  • @echoopera said:

    What other apps like this force you into such a rigid workflow model?

    Rebirth would be the most obvious (and popular) antecedent. Figure as well.

  • @busker said:

    @echoopera said:

    What other apps like this force you into such a rigid workflow model?

    Rebirth would be the most obvious (and popular) antecedent. Figure as well.

    Ahhhh yep. That’s right.

    But where are they now?

  • When I saw gavinskis video I thought "scapeshift" for iOS!

  • edited April 18

    I didn't even notice the 'locked in tracks'. My favorite grooveboxes have this and it always fits me like a cozy creative glove. I really don't see this as a boner/headslap at all. I mean, if people love Drambo so much why are they even looking to cheat? Tsk tsk

    I imagine that with the randomization / genre rules aspect being algorithmic and not purely random that locking in track types may have helped to achieve more coherent results. It is very impressive and to me what the app seems to be all about. Opening it up to any potential arrangement of track types may have just thrown a complete spanner in the works for the randomizer and just add too much complexity.

    (Congrats on the honour Gavinski, very cool!)

  • circuit tracks has fixed 2 synth and 4 fixed drum tracks .. also yamaha seqtrak have fixed track types if i am not wrong .. it’s simply one of possible types of approach ..

  • @Gavinski do you know if they are planning on adding other “ genres” like ambient or hip hop or something !?

  • @sevenape said:
    @Gavinski do you know if they are planning on adding other “ genres” like ambient or hip hop or something !?

    Haven't heard of such plans yet, Dan, request this maybe. I've seen some comments that it would be good with some 'darker' output from the randomizer. I agree with that observation and would hope that they'd try to do that

    @AudioGus thnx!

  • edited April 18

    One of the nicest NO answers
    I’ve gotten in a long time 😂

    “Bigger” updates means a 2.0 or 3.0 update so we won’t be seeing anything for a few years if at all.

    It’s a shame. If this thing offered user assignable Track types over the 8 Tracks it would have sold like hot cakes at an early morning Food Truck Flap Jacks pop up. But instead they’re just frozen waffles in the forgotten aisle of the dollar store- nothing wrong with frozen waffles…but man, nothings better than fresh organic artisan flap jacks on a cool Saturday Morning with a hot coffee and friends.

    Maybe the app will be good to generate sample fodder. That might be a decent use of it.

    Sounds Of The Universe Imploding
    333 Sounds from the Dialektic Model of The Cosmos
    Get yours today*

    *please note that when you get the Samples you will only be able to use them in a predefined way. If you would like more than 3 drum tracks in your sample you will need to do this on your own in another app and use the solo’d stem of the single drum track to add to your multi channel stems from your other app which permits user assignable track types.

    Have fun 😂

  • @echoopera said:
    One of the nicest NO answers
    I’ve gotten in a long time 😂

    “Bigger” updates means a 2.0 or 3.0 update so we won’t be seeing anything for a few years if at all.

    It’s a shame. If this thing offered user assignable Track types over the 8 Tracks it would have sold like hot cakes at an early morning Food Truck Flap Jacks pop up. But instead they’re just frozen waffles in the forgotten aisle of the dollar store- nothing wrong with frozen waffles…but man, nothings better than fresh organic artisan flap jacks on a cool Saturday Morning with a hot coffee and friends.

    Maybe the app will be good to generate sample fodder. That might be a decent use of it.

    Sounds Of The Universe Imploding
    333 Sounds from the Dialektic Model of The Cosmos
    Get yours today*

    *please note that when you get the Samples you will only be able to use them in a predefined way. If you would like more than 3 drum tracks in your sample you will need to do this on your own in another app and use the solo’d stem of the single drum track to add to your multi channel stems from your other app which permits user assignable track types.

    Have fun 😂

    Expect SB will send you an envelope with a bullet to keep you quiet.

  • @echoopera said:

    Maybe the app will be good to generate sample fodder. That might be a decent use of it.

    It feels like that was ultimately the intention.

    Have fun 😂

    As well as this.

  • edited April 18

    @echoopera said:
    One of the nicest NO answers
    I’ve gotten in a long time 😂

    that's absolutely standard way how our company replies to our clients when they ask for some new feature, and i say on internal team meeting "hell fuck no way we are doing this shit, it's just bad idea to mess code with such feature" 🤣🤣🤣

  • edited April 18

    Having played with the Windows demo, my main reaction so far is not the fixed track structure, but rather than the presets all have a similar sound - kind of chiptuney and I'm not sure yet what range of vibe/feel/genre it is capable of. Then I remember that SB presets tend to be on the eccentric side and that some coaxing is often required to get the best out of their apps.

    A little on the fence with this one so far. Will play a bit more and see if I can get something closer to my preferred sound. I love SB apps and am looking to justify buying this, but haven't so far, but will keep playing.

  • I think in the end most of the tracks are all going to sound the same. But maybe I’m wrong.

  • Sometimes "this app doesn't have the features I want" doesn't mean the developer was short-sighted. Sometimes it means, "this app is targeted for someone else." It is easy as an observer to think "it would have been trivial to make this app so that it does what I want and that other thing" when, in fact, the change wouldn't be trivial to make OR would have an impact on the usability for the person they are trying to reach.

    Not all apps need to appeal to all users.

  • @espiegel123 said:
    Sometimes "this app doesn't have the features I want" doesn't mean the developer was short-sighted. Sometimes it means, "this app is targeted for someone else." It is easy as an observer to think "it would have been trivial to make this app so that it does what I want and that other thing" when, in fact, the change wouldn't be trivial to make OR would have an impact on the usability for the person they are trying to reach.

    Not all apps need to appeal to all users.

    Absolutely this !!!

  • edited April 18

    @echoopera said:
    I think in the end most of the tracks are all going to sound the same. But maybe I’m wrong.

    For sure, for those who just stick in the one app it is likely the case.

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