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Almost too much latency

…‘Too much latency’ was the message that AUM kept displaying while I was creating this.
Ravenscroft 275 piano(s) put through multiple AUM Time Offsets, Rob Jackson’s new ANALOGyGR, Noise Melody and Drums, all played by multiple Piano Motifs with AUM clock ratio set so that some things are running at 10bpm.
SWAM Soprano Saxophone played with GeoShred.

Comments

  • This fits well in the Medicinal Music genre I’m hearing on the forum. Lots of reverb and nice slow melodic phrasing using
    notes that have an emotional pull based on pending resolutions towards resting spots.

    Thanks for sharing these addictive spiritual doses of bliss. I’m better for the experience.

    (Hmm… what’s trending on X?)

  • Beautiful Tony! For some reason this song reminded me of Alan Parson's Project. The sax solo is so emotive.

  • edited June 2025

    Really like this a lot. I could loop it for hours. Can you describe the setup? I’m interested in how you were able to trigger those 4-note motifs at seemingly random times, yet I was able to feel a steady clock throughout the entire piece. Very nice effect that it provides space for other things to keep it interesting. I would like to try routing it into Cubasis and see what I come up with.

  • edited June 2025

    Sounds wonderful. So relaxing and the sax is the icing on the cake.

  • Lovely - you've captured the haunting mood of the glen yet again, especially with that lovely sax line. I'm just back from 10 days in Scotland, during which we passed through many unspoilt glens in the Borders and this could happily have been playing in the background. The only wee thing, and it is a wee thing, is that the 808-ish snare sound (e.g. at 1:33) pulled me out of the moment a little, but as I've said twice already, and will say for a third, it is a wee thing :)

    The theme of your next assignment might combine oystercatchers and a lament for the dead, as we saw several of the orange-billed creatures padding around the cemetery as we visited a family grave last week :)

  • Lovely @GeoTony - a touch of the Jan Garbareks again. I'm also interested in the set up, particularly the time offset and clock ratio thing.

  • Many thanks @McD , @azul3D_Apps , @Paulieworld , @bluegroove , @craftycurate and @pbelgium for taking the time to listen and comment.

    While we were is Scotland last month @craftycurate it struck me that I’d never seen an Oyster Catcher catch an Oyster and googling confirms a more or less total misname 🤔 I do like the Borders, a much under appreciated area.
    I actually agree about the 1:33… it had bothered me but not to the point of me redoing the track 😊
    The percussion is basically whatever Piano Motifs finished up playing from the Roli Noise Drums : Tech House Groove Kit.
    Happy to have a touch of the Garbareks @pbelgium !

    The details are…
    PM is running at 10 bpm by having AUM running at 20 bpm and then setting the AUM Clock Ratio facility on PM to 1/2.
    By setting the PM Accomp Midi setting to Multi, each note of a chord is output on a different channel I.e. first note on Ch2, second on Ch3 etc.
    I pointed each channel at a different instance of Ravenscoft 275 and then put the outputs through varying numbers of the AUM Time Offset node. So Ch2 had zero delay, Ch3 a delay of 200ms, Ch4 400ms, Ch5 600ms.
    The PM Third Track (R275) also had a delay of 600ms and was placed far right in the mix.
    The PM Melody Harmony channel (R275) had no delay.
    PM Ch3 was playing ANALOGyGR, no delay.
    A second instance of PM using the same chord progression but a different motif played Roli Noise Melody Fluid Acoustic Bass and the percussion.

  • @GeoTony said:
    Many thanks @McD , @azul3D_Apps , @Paulieworld , @bluegroove , @craftycurate and @pbelgium for taking the time to listen and comment.

    While we were is Scotland last month @craftycurate it struck me that I’d never seen an Oyster Catcher catch an Oyster and googling confirms a more or less total misname 🤔 I do like the Borders, a much under appreciated area.
    I actually agree about the 1:33… it had bothered me but not to the point of me redoing the track 😊
    The percussion is basically whatever Piano Motifs finished up playing from the Roli Noise Drums : Tech House Groove Kit.
    Happy to have a touch of the Garbareks @pbelgium !

    The details are…
    PM is running at 10 bpm by having AUM running at 20 bpm and then setting the AUM Clock Ratio facility on PM to 1/2.
    By setting the PM Accomp Midi setting to Multi, each note of a chord is output on a different channel I.e. first note on Ch2, second on Ch3 etc.
    I pointed each channel at a different instance of Ravenscoft 275 and then put the outputs through varying numbers of the AUM Time Offset node. So Ch2 had zero delay, Ch3 a delay of 200ms, Ch4 400ms, Ch5 600ms.
    The PM Third Track (R275) also had a delay of 600ms and was placed far right in the mix.
    The PM Melody Harmony channel (R275) had no delay.
    PM Ch3 was playing ANALOGyGR, no delay.
    A second instance of PM using the same chord progression but a different motif played Roli Noise Melody Fluid Acoustic Bass and the percussion.

    There are some really good ideas in your use of AUM… that new AUM feature where you can divide up the BPM clock into optional fractions is really fun for super slow settings or fractions that generates poly rhythms you just can’t create with the sequencers all using the same clock.

  • @GeoTony Yes, I'm not sure what they catch normally, but they seem to like pottering around in shallow water, turning over rocks and so on with that large curving bill.

  • Thanks for the tips. I’ll get up early this weekend and give it a try. Is this something that you discovered, or did you have a plan when you started? I rarely have a plan. I usually go in and start hacking until I hear something I like. This will be new and different. Thanks again for sharing.

  • Sounds awesome!

  • I liked it.

  • @GeoTony sounds great. I really like how you bring in the drums subtly. There’s a very nice flow to the piece. Nice work.

  • Beautiful. It touches the same emotional places as a slow jazz ballad without being one. My only comment is that I wanted it to go on.
    Is “medicinal music” a thing? If so, this is it.

  • I appreciate the kind words @cokomairena , @LinearLineman , @reezygle and @boomer 🙏
    I think @McD has invented medicinal music 🧪💊
    I vary wildly @Paulieworld between trying something that I have been thinking about.. about a 50/50 success rate, just throwing apps together to see what happens and then putting them on the back burner for anything from a few days to a couple of years or spontaneously coming up with something that works in a few minutes… so basically I’ve no idea what I’m doing from track to track 🤔

  • @GeoTony said:
    …‘Too much latency’ was the message that AUM kept displaying while I was creating this.
    Ravenscroft 275 piano(s) put through multiple AUM Time Offsets, Rob Jackson’s new ANALOGyGR, Noise Melody and Drums, all played by multiple Piano Motifs with AUM clock ratio set so that some things are running at 10bpm.
    SWAM Soprano Saxophone played with GeoShred.

    It doesn't sound as complex as you describe. As always, your solo playing is the star.

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