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The most advanced multi instrumentalist I have ever seen :

edited August 2025 in Other Music Content

“He was overwhelming … I’ve NEVER seen anyone play guitar like that “—-Bill Frisell
Arthur Rhames: He mentored Vernon Reid and just about everyone coming up in Brooklyn New York during the 70’s including guitar great Stanley Jordan. This is him at 21.. Skip to 2:45 in the video . The last 45 seconds from 2:45 to 3:30. Skip this if you’re not a jazz fusion/ John McLaughlin fan. This group opened up for Larry Coryell but was fired after a few weeks for reasons you can imagine . He also toured and recorded w R&B great Steve Arrington’s “Hall Of Fame” opening for George Clinton and Funkadelic on the 1983 “Atomic Dog” tour .

Same guy , Arthur Rhames on the piano below blasting through John Coltrane’s “Lazybird”.

Same guy , Arthur Rhames on alto sax at 2:08

Was hired by drumming genius Elvin Jones , bassist Reggie Workman and Coltrane drummer Rashied Ali:
Accomplished all of this by his mid 20’s ..
Died at age 32 .
Google “Arthur Rhames/Vernon Reid

Comments

  • I recorded a CD with him back in 1981 playing the drums. Half was live on the streets of New York, the other half was live at a club called “Soundscape”..
    https://ayler-records.bandcamp.com/album/two-in-nyc

  • edited August 2025

    The thumbnail is of me and Arthur busking in 1981 however this is not me drumming on this particular track: Arthur on tenor sax along with guitar great Stanley Jordan on guitar on John Coltrane’s “Impressions ”..

  • Why do you always post this kind of stuff in the general app discussion category?

  • wimwim
    edited August 2025

    (Moved to Other Music Content category.)

  • I can’t listen yet but I’m still blown away by the story. And the fact that you’re a left handed drummer but I need to see
    where you position the bass drum for more clues.

  • @McD said:
    I can’t listen yet but I’m still blown away by the story. And the fact that you’re a left handed drummer but I need to see
    where you position the bass drum for more clues.

    I’m hard core lefty . Like Phil Collins. Imagine Ringo’s set reversed .
    His story is all the more remarkable in that he came from Brownsville Brooklyn, single mom and listen to him play piano on “Lazybird” yet he’d never owned a piano in his life ever . Grew up in the slums , same neighborhood as Mike Tyson.

  • OK… I made the YouTube tour to hear his guitar, piano and sax skills. Incredible amount of work invested in
    all three. Hard to imagine developing keyboard chops without ever owning one. One of the YouTube commenters
    said he took Sax Lessons from Arthur so I’d imagine he influenced generation of students around greater NYC.

    In the modern scene Louis Kato has impressive chops on guitar, drums and horns and probably anything else he decides to
    master. These folks are genetically gifted I suspect for music like the little toddlers that can pick out tunes before they speak.

  • That’s f’ing out of this world
    I had never heard of this guy but jaw dropped
    Why do all music mad genius have to die young?

  • @Telstar5 said:

    @McD said:
    I can’t listen yet but I’m still blown away by the story. And the fact that you’re a left handed drummer but I need to see
    where you position the bass drum for more clues.

    I’m hard core lefty . Like Phil Collins. Imagine Ringo’s set reversed .

    One of the things that most people don’t realize is that Ringo plays a right-handed kit, but still leads with his left hand. Pretty hard to play like that if you’re a right-handed drummer.

    I remember an interview with Phil Collin’s years ago who said he regretted learning on a left-handed kit as he found it hard to emulate a lot of things that Ringo did, but it was only when he realized that Ringo is left-handed that it all made sense.

  • McDMcD
    edited August 2025

    If I was teaching drum students (something I did for about 8 years) I would start them out as “Open Handed”
    and have them work through “Stick Control” patterns with their feet too.

    It really freaks me out to watch Simon play because it’s NOT the well worn path of the Rock, Jazz drummer.
    I have seen some Latin Drummers with great hand independence: one that played the set with the left hand and played Conga drums with the right and he didn’t have any wasted motions. You could rest a water glass on this head and not see the water ripple. Very “Zen” Chinese chef in his approach to what is an exceptional interesting
    drum style with dozens of dance music patterns.

  • @pedro said:
    That’s f’ing out of this world
    I had never heard of this guy but jaw dropped
    Why do all music mad genius have to die young?

    Never met or heard close to that, ever

  • @McD : Louis plays really well , but Arthur played sax well enough to get hired by drummer Elvin Jones on the spot . The late great pianist Kenny Kirkland said that Arthur was gonna be the “next guy” on tenor sax. He used to also sit in regularly with Pharoah Sanders. Arthur was absolutely as good or better than anybody on all 3 instruments. He changed my life .

  • @Telstar5 said:
    @McD : Louis plays really well , but Arthur played sax well enough to get hired by drummer Elvin Jones on the spot . The late great pianist Kenny Kirkland said that Arthur was gonna be the “next guy” on tenor sax. He used to also sit in regularly with Pharoah Sanders. Arthur was absolutely as good or better than anybody on all 3 instruments. He changed my life .

    I’m not mentioning Louis Kato as anyone on Arthur Rhames level for virtuosity but just someone on the NYC scene that’s
    on TV a lot doing a variety of instruments and also singing songs he wrote. I think many musicians have learned they can
    just collect instruments and play them all… of course, playing them at this level is a standout.

    I know what my wife would say “Too many notes” echoing the thoughts of Baron Gottfried van Swieten is a character in the film Amadeus. I take her to hear local musicians with these skills and she reads on her phone waiting for me to get my fill of
    artistry she cannot fathom. She’s a good sport.

  • Amazing playing. His energy in person must have been incredible - particularly seeing that he was mentoring people at the young age he was. That is some life force stream.

  • @Mountain_Hamlet said:
    Amazing playing. His energy in person must have been incredible - particularly seeing that he was mentoring people at the young age he was. That is some life force stream.

    You get it for sure !

  • edited August 2025

    .

  • @Telstar5 said:

    @Mountain_Hamlet said:
    Amazing playing. His energy in person must have been incredible - particularly seeing that he was mentoring people at the young age he was. That is some life force stream.

    A LOT of people had the same criticism. But she may have said the same about Coltrane or Mahavishnu too, ya know ?

    @McD said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    @McD : Louis plays really well , but Arthur played sax well enough to get hired by drummer Elvin Jones on the spot . The late great pianist Kenny Kirkland said that Arthur was gonna be the “next guy” on tenor sax. He used to also sit in regularly with Pharoah Sanders. Arthur was absolutely as good or better than anybody on all 3 instruments. He changed my life .

    I’m not mentioning Louis Kato as anyone on Arthur Rhames level for virtuosity but just someone on the NYC scene that’s
    on TV a lot doing a variety of instruments and also singing songs he wrote. I think many musicians have learned they can
    just collect instruments and play them all… of course, playing them at this level is a standout.

    I know what my wife would say “Too many notes” echoing the thoughts of Baron Gottfried van Swieten is a character in the film Amadeus. I take her to hear local musicians with these skills and she reads on her phone waiting for me to get my fill of
    artistry she cannot fathom. She’s a good sport.

    A LOT of folks had that same criticism .. it then again she could have said that about Coltrane and Mahavishnu too, ya know ?
    Cato is one TASTY mo’fo though.. Wow .

  • @michael_m said:

    @Telstar5 said:

    @McD said:
    I can’t listen yet but I’m still blown away by the story. And the fact that you’re a left handed drummer but I need to see
    where you position the bass drum for more clues.

    I’m hard core lefty . Like Phil Collins. Imagine Ringo’s set reversed .

    One of the things that most people don’t realize is that Ringo plays a right-handed kit, but still leads with his left hand. Pretty hard to play like that if you’re a right-handed drummer.

    I remember an interview with Phil Collin’s years ago who said he regretted learning on a left-handed kit as he found it hard to emulate a lot of things that Ringo did, but it was only when he realized that Ringo is left-handed that it all made sense.

    Sorry, is that ringo from the beatles, the guy that wasn’t even the best drum player in the beatles? That Ringo?

    But jokes aside I got a new perspective for the guy. Why that left/right handed question even? Don’t get if he’s left or right handed, but why would he even bother playing other-handed?

  • @pedro said:

    @michael_m said:

    @Telstar5 said:

    @McD said:
    I can’t listen yet but I’m still blown away by the story. And the fact that you’re a left handed drummer but I need to see
    where you position the bass drum for more clues.

    I’m hard core lefty . Like Phil Collins. Imagine Ringo’s set reversed .

    One of the things that most people don’t realize is that Ringo plays a right-handed kit, but still leads with his left hand. Pretty hard to play like that if you’re a right-handed drummer.

    I remember an interview with Phil Collin’s years ago who said he regretted learning on a left-handed kit as he found it hard to emulate a lot of things that Ringo did, but it was only when he realized that Ringo is left-handed that it all made sense.

    Sorry, is that ringo from the beatles, the guy that wasn’t even the best drum player in the beatles? That Ringo?

    But jokes aside I got a new perspective for the guy. Why that left/right handed question even? Don’t get if he’s left or right handed, but why would he even bother playing other-handed?

    I think it’s more natural to lead with your preferred hand, but that messes you up for playing around the kit of your have it set up for opposite to that.

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