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  • wimwim

    As much as I detest people posting AI generated answers, this one summarizes things better than I could:

    Impulse responses (IRs) cannot fully capture distortion because distortion is a non-linear audio effect, while IRs can only accurately represent linear time-invariant (LTI) system behaviors like frequency response and delay. Convolution with an IR is a purely linear process, meaning it cannot create or replicate harmonic distortion, compression, or other time-dependent effects that change the relationship between input and output frequencies. While you might capture the average response of a speaker under distortion, you cannot reproduce the changing, non-linear distortion itself.

  • SquishySquishy

    @wim @espiegel123 thanks for the info/confirmation, this is how I’ve understood NAM/IR stuff as well, which make these “chow amp IR”s even more peculiar… really curious what’s going on here. Like previously said, they could just be EQ captures, but they sound great/almost as good as some of the NAMs I’ve tried. There hasn’t been a CHOW app in a while, but maybe I’ll shoot out an email anyway, hopefully find out what’s goin on under the hood

  • SquishySquishy

    For those curious, I got a response from Jatin of CHOWdsp. The Amp IRs are in fact speaker/cab IRs, so nothing to do with the amp section, confirming what was previously stated about IRs not being able to capture distortion. However, he mentioned there are also preamp modules for some amplifiers that pair well with these “Amp IR” cab sims. He also mentioned that if he finds the time, he is considering adding a NAM module so you can add amp captures in BYOD. (Could this mean he’s busy working on new CHOW apps?! A man can dream…)
    First time conversing with Jatin, seems like a great dude!

  • SchmotownSchmotown

    @richardyot said:
    Using impulse responses is the best way IMO. You need a reverb that can load them, I use IMPULSation, and some nice IRs of real acoustic guitars.

    I use a pack from Worship Tutorials that has a Taylor 816, but I don't think it's available anymore, however this Taylor 414 is currently free:

    https://worshiptutorials.com/product/tlr-414-acoustic-ir-pack/

    In this recording my guitar was plugged into the interface via the Piezo pickup, but the IR loaded into AUM made it sound like a microphone recording of an acoustic guitar:

    Hey @richardyot, I’m not familiar with the original but I really enjoyed your cover. Vocal, guitar, totally cool vibe… all well done.

    My “band” sometimes plays and records under headphones in what used to be a bedroom (see below) using Logic Pro. Controlling microphone bleed is always a problem. Electric guitars are easy, thanks to Gigfast Lite, but mic’ing up an acoustic, which I play about half the time, is a mess, picking up pretty much everything else in the room.

    Your approach has helped a lot. I got good results using one of the Taylor 414 IRs and I’m curious to see whether any of the others mentioned by @Poppadocrock and @yosoychema work even better.

  • SquishySquishy

    @Schmotown

    Cool space!

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @Schmotown said:

    @richardyot said:
    Using impulse responses is the best way IMO. You need a reverb that can load them, I use IMPULSation, and some nice IRs of real acoustic guitars.

    I use a pack from Worship Tutorials that has a Taylor 816, but I don't think it's available anymore, however this Taylor 414 is currently free:

    https://worshiptutorials.com/product/tlr-414-acoustic-ir-pack/

    In this recording my guitar was plugged into the interface via the Piezo pickup, but the IR loaded into AUM made it sound like a microphone recording of an acoustic guitar:

    Hey @richardyot, I’m not familiar with the original but I really enjoyed your cover. Vocal, guitar, totally cool vibe… all well done.

    My “band” sometimes plays and records under headphones in what used to be a bedroom (see below) using Logic Pro. Controlling microphone bleed is always a problem. Electric guitars are easy, thanks to Gigfast Lite, but mic’ing up an acoustic, which I play about half the time, is a mess, picking up pretty much everything else in the room.

    Your approach has helped a lot. I got good results using one of the Taylor 414 IRs and I’m curious to see whether any of the others mentioned by @Poppadocrock and @yosoychema work even better.

    Glad to be of help. Lovely room BTW, very live sounding with all those hard surfaces, I imagine.

    Also, if you've never heard High and Dry by Radiohead, you really should give it a listen - the whole album it's from (The Bends) is outstanding.

  • egobeatsegobeats

    @wim thx for turning me onto IR's, I'm embarrassed that I had no idea what impulse response was for, how to make IR wavs, etc... I loaded up JAmp IR on my guitar channel and was shocked at how much it improved the guitar and drum acoustics. Pretty wild.

  • SquishySquishy

    @egobeats said:
    @wim thx for turning me onto IR's, I'm embarrassed that I had no idea what impulse response was for, how to make IR wavs, etc... I loaded up JAmp IR on my guitar channel and was shocked at how much it improved the guitar and drum acoustics. Pretty wild.

    Jamp is the one IR loader I can’t seem to dial in any good sounds. I think it’s mainly the slider/zoom function. How are you using it? Zooming all the way out? Zooming in on just the chonky bits of the wav?

  • egobeatsegobeats
    edited September 2025

    Actually, I just slapped it on as an audio effect and selected two different waveforms. The source audio was acoustic guitar and acoustic drums so the improvement was immediate. Maybe something a bit more saturated is harder to tell a difference.

    I just selected a couple that came within the app, but am downloading more IR's now .

  • rototomrototom

    @richardyot said:
    Using impulse responses is the best way IMO. You need a reverb that can load them, I use IMPULSation, and some nice IRs of real acoustic guitars.

    I use a pack from Worship Tutorials that has a Taylor 816, but I don't think it's available anymore, however this Taylor 414 is currently free:

    https://worshiptutorials.com/product/tlr-414-acoustic-ir-pack/

    In this recording my guitar was plugged into the interface via the Piezo pickup, but the IR loaded into AUM made it sound like a microphone recording of an acoustic guitar:

    hi,
    sounds very nice out of my plain ipad speaker!
    are you using two microphones here?

    and
    you still get the acoustic sound into your vocal mic...
    how do you treat/ mix that?

  • richardyotrichardyot

    @rototom said:

    @richardyot said:
    Using impulse responses is the best way IMO. You need a reverb that can load them, I use IMPULSation, and some nice IRs of real acoustic guitars.

    I use a pack from Worship Tutorials that has a Taylor 816, but I don't think it's available anymore, however this Taylor 414 is currently free:

    https://worshiptutorials.com/product/tlr-414-acoustic-ir-pack/

    In this recording my guitar was plugged into the interface via the Piezo pickup, but the IR loaded into AUM made it sound like a microphone recording of an acoustic guitar:

    hi,
    sounds very nice out of my plain ipad speaker!
    are you using two microphones here?

    and
    you still get the acoustic sound into your vocal mic...
    how do you treat/ mix that?

    I'm using an SM7B for the voice, and the guitar is recorded with the piezo pickup plugged into the interface. There is some bleed into the vocal mic but it's fine because the processing on the voice is pretty minimal (just a bit of reverb).

  • rototomrototom

    @richardyot said:

    @rototom said:

    @richardyot said:
    Using impulse responses is the best way IMO. You need a reverb that can load them, I use IMPULSation, and some nice IRs of real acoustic guitars.

    I use a pack from Worship Tutorials that has a Taylor 816, but I don't think it's available anymore, however this Taylor 414 is currently free:

    https://worshiptutorials.com/product/tlr-414-acoustic-ir-pack/

    In this recording my guitar was plugged into the interface via the Piezo pickup, but the IR loaded into AUM made it sound like a microphone recording of an acoustic guitar:

    hi,
    sounds very nice out of my plain ipad speaker!
    are you using two microphones here?

    and
    you still get the acoustic sound into your vocal mic...
    how do you treat/ mix that?

    I'm using an SM7B for the voice, and the guitar is recorded with the piezo pickup plugged into the interface. There is some bleed into the vocal mic but it's fine because the processing on the voice is pretty minimal (just a bit of reverb).

    ok, thanks!
    i thought this was a second microphone.

  • richardyotrichardyot
    edited September 2025

    @rototom said:

    @richardyot said:

    @rototom said:

    @richardyot said:
    Using impulse responses is the best way IMO. You need a reverb that can load them, I use IMPULSation, and some nice IRs of real acoustic guitars.

    I use a pack from Worship Tutorials that has a Taylor 816, but I don't think it's available anymore, however this Taylor 414 is currently free:

    https://worshiptutorials.com/product/tlr-414-acoustic-ir-pack/

    In this recording my guitar was plugged into the interface via the Piezo pickup, but the IR loaded into AUM made it sound like a microphone recording of an acoustic guitar:

    hi,
    sounds very nice out of my plain ipad speaker!
    are you using two microphones here?

    and
    you still get the acoustic sound into your vocal mic...
    how do you treat/ mix that?

    I'm using an SM7B for the voice, and the guitar is recorded with the piezo pickup plugged into the interface. There is some bleed into the vocal mic but it's fine because the processing on the voice is pretty minimal (just a bit of reverb).

    ok, thanks!
    i thought this was a second microphone.

    That's just the standard SM7 cable connector :)

  • egobeatsegobeats

    There's a great thread about IR's. That I am tempted to bump, but I won't.

    With Altispace2 having butt tons of IR's and the ability to load your own. I was wondering if any of you guitar folks have used Altispace2 with acoustic guitar and your thoughts?

  • PapaBPoppinPapaBPoppin
    edited September 2025

    Worth noting, Nembrini Acoustic Voice just went on sale for $8.99usd

    Quick opinion question:
    Would this or Gain Stage Acoustic be better for making a Strat sound more like an acoustic?

  • egobeatsegobeats
    edited September 2025

    not acoustic, but found these metal IR's: https://www.tone3000.com/resington

  • filo01filo01
    edited September 2025

    @egobeats said:
    found these IR's: https://www.tone3000.com/resington

    I doubt any of them will be suitable for acoustic guitar. I know Resington he is a pure metal player.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @egobeats said:
    found these IR's: https://www.tone3000.com/resington

    Those are speaker cabinet IRs. What are you planning to use them for? They are intended for putting after an amp sim to act as a virtual speaker cabinet.

  • egobeatsegobeats

    you're absolutely right. not a single one wasn't crunchy.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @egobeats said:
    you're absolutely right. not a single one wasn't crunchy.

    IRs can’t provide distortion. This is discussed up-thread.

  • egobeatsegobeats

    @espiegel123 said:

    @egobeats said:
    found these IR's: https://www.tone3000.com/resington

    What are you planning to use them for?

    Cabinet emulation for my bass guitar soundfonts

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