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Suno Studio (Coming Soon)
If you've tried any of the leading generative music/audio services, you've probably tried the hit or miss approach of Suno. Looks like leaving everything to luck with your prompts is going away with this latest foray into more traditional multi-track DAW-like environment. Although this is mainly a stem splitter and editing environment, I full expect greater and greater levels of customization to soon follow so it'll become trivially easy to generate new lyrics, choose singers and styles, choose specific instruments, etc.
I'm also expecting the things that Suno, Udio and others (like Producer.ai) are doing now will eventually make their way to software like GarageBand and Logic Pro, so I'm excited to see these services expand their usability. Let's face it, if you're in the music production business, you'll need to use these services to remain competitive.
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AI music? No thanks, pass and will never contribute to that.
Can't wait for those great days of competitiveness and productivity where nobody writes lyrics that nobody sings on music that nobody composes and plays. The era of prompt engineering seems very interesting and loads of fun.
I hate this with burning heat of a thousand suns. These companies have stolen all the creative effort of every musician, performer, producer and engineer who has ever made a recording, with the explicit aim of replacing them.
I am not someone with a classical training, am a mediocre composer and engineer at best but I loathe the notion of "democratising creativity". This is not a tool like cheap recording hardware and software, but a way of people avoiding doing the actual work of creativity - creating
DO THE WORK, and REFUSE to use this environment-destroying, fascism-adjacent plagiarism machine built on stolen work.
They're going to get sued into oblivion by rights holders, and good f***ing riddance to them.
Never use AI
Don’t be so negative- I’m sure there will be IAPs for "heart" and "soul".
Nope.
Yes
Will this be available on iPad ?
Hahah, and you forgot the mandatory subscription to the services. More expensive GPT = “better” artist! Because, you know, art is all about "who is better". 🤦♂️😂
Art? WTF is that? You mean ART as "Actionable, Results, Target"? Or "Acquisition, Retention, Turnover" or maybe "Audience Retention Technology"? Or could it be "Accelerated ROI Tracking"? 🤷
Art? Do you mean this thing involving a muse and all that stuff? Seriously, What world are you living in @Luxthor ?
Nope.
Just prepare yourself for a bloom of inspiration and a variety of musicians in the coming years. 🤫😏
Seems like something we can easily sell to the masses, you're onto something. Let's make rock great again !
Yes the world is indeed crying out for more slop.
You are right, but rock is still great and kicks a55! 🤭
Don't know what AI you used for this, but it's poorly trained. Saxophones + guitar ≠ rock. Or did you include "Dire Straits" in your prompt ?
Kidding, M. Knopfler has a nice thumb
They're playing Elvis's song 'Tutti Frutti.' The scene is from the movie 'Top Secret', so it features the King of Rock and Roll. 🎸🤘
Tutti Frutti an Elvis song? You're joking ? 🤦😮💨
I got it, you're a badly trained AI bot
Haha! 😂
Now imagine a future without actors or musicians, no composers, no editors, no directors, etc… just a bunch of generated slop that represents a mere shadow of something that was real a long time ago. 🥶
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Even a baby AI would tell you that Elvis the King was a junkie, nymphomaniac, and sandwich addict who took advantage of the segregation to build his fame by "heavily borrowing" (the soft word for stealing) to artists like Little Richard, Bo Diddley, Chuck Berry , Sister Rosetta Tharpe or Fats Domino. Few years later a band like Led Zeppelin did a similar thing in UK by taking advantage of the British youth ignorance of the true roots of blues and rock and Roll. So back on topic, in a way, AI resets the clock of unfairness : A single prompt and you can steal from virtually anybody, skin colour blind, no copyright strings attached.
Claude.ai
😂
What’s the point? Everyone in those days was doing this crap: Led Zeppelin, the Rolling Stones, the Beatles, etc…
This is the epitome of the mainstream music industry. Stealing from other artists and performing by yourself looks like a noble thing compared to what the industry is doing these days with copyrighted digital data. 🤦♂️
Every bit of music was built on what came before. It's [removed**] to call it stealing. I can't speak for Elvis, but Led Zeppelin had no such motives. They weren't trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes. They had deep appreciation for those influences and wanted to incorporate them in new and modern ways.
Name me one "new" music direction that wasn't an evolution of, or a reaction against, what came before.
** [removed because I can't think of any adjective that won't be taken as insulting and I don't mean to be]
I'm sharing this because I feel like it succinctly states my thoughts on the matter.
I know many will disagree, and it doesn't address the lack of compensation for the artist's work that was used for training which I know is a sticking point for some.
On that point, I feel more should be done, but I also see little difference in someone being "inspired" by all the music they've been exposed to versus allowing machines learning to take that same information and create something new from it. Sampling and remixes have long been accepted as creative work. In my mind, this is the same.
I know some of you will never agree, and I respect your opinions.
Still, I hope this adds value to the conversation.
https://x.com/CipherVoss/status/1962198781165748383?t=eX0ZwRKCwVYo2gqJn9ajQg&s=09
"Every leap in art has faced pushback. The printing press was blamed for flooding the world with mediocre books. Photography was called soulless compared to painting. Synthesizers were accused of stripping music of its humanity. Each time, people worried that making art easier would cheapen it.
History proves them wrong. Printing spread stories to new corners of the world. Photography pushed painters to explore bold new styles. Electronic instruments created genres that changed culture forever. Ease didn’t diminish art, it unleashed it, opening doors for more voices and bigger dreams. AI is no different. Its simplicity doesn’t weaken creativity; it sets it free, letting you focus on the ideas that matter most."
I understand that some fear losing jobs.
I'm afraid that is inevitable.
I've had the privilege of working with world class craftsmen who were eventually replaced by CAD, CNC milling, and 3d printing.
Being an artist has never been the safe way to make a living. The music industry has already been decimated by piracy and streaming. I'm not sure how much longer the movie industry will survive.
But I think people who love to create will continue to do so, regardless of whether or not there is money to be made.
Best of luck to all of you.
I'm with those that think AI use for making music is a degrading practice that can barely be classified as creativity. Not so much because it steals. That has always been done - just not so efficiently and not to this scale. But because it adds nothing and does not (cannot) access the real source of creativity. It can only regurgitate. The only human creativity involved is writing a prompt. I guess that's something though. Good on them, I guess. I'm not interested.
I knew this would be a controversial post, but it's good to get everyone's opinion on the matter.
"A.I." isn't going away and it will be a force multiplier for those who understand and are able to use it. If a person has no talent or understanding of music, they'll get mediocre results. If a person uses these new services wisely, they'll be able to iterate faster, be creative in more ways and make more of what they really want. This isn't even a question now.
I look forward to being able to hum, whistle or play a solo and then instruct the DAW I'm using to turn that into a pro-sounding sax, or a world-class guitar player. That saves me time and money as the writer, musician, engineer and business owner. And these same advantages will be there for anyone to leverage.
None of this will take away from people who love to create music starting from nothing on their own. I still do that myself. And now I have more options than ever to explore new ideas.
This is true. Everything we know is built on whatever came before us.
The first appearance of generated music I was completely demoralized. When something affects me that much, I know I need to step up my game and learn about it. It's not for everyone, certainly not for those who "jealously guard" (that's lawyer-speak) their creativity.