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2nd DAW for alternative music making from Logic (Live Chosen)
Logic is my main DAW on Mac.
If you was to choose another DAW to have a change of approach at times from Logic, what would it be? and why?
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yep Logic clicks with me, but im just in one of those fancy a change moods. anything else you can say that drew you to Bitwig in particular?
Will go have a look. Been a bit worried about downloading too many trials as I have a little OCD weirdness regarding not being able to cleanly delete some apps from my Mac properly lol
I am definitely interested in Bitwig, particularly since i saw that it seems to have some degree of Maschine integration now.
I use Logic for building a track from loops, then import the audio into Ableton for overdubs and audio editing.
Logic strongpoint: the looper seems better at picking up the tempo of imported audio, plus I can use my AUv3 MIDI fx/sequencers.
Ableton strongpoints: I just find the uncluttered UI much easier to work with, for chopping and moving chunks of audio around, plus it supports my Max4Live apps.
Thanks. Initial look seems very interesting, especially the Grid!
Yes, have been having a look at Live, because I like that you can rent to buy. Still trying to get my head around the Max4live thing lol
Just think of them as another type of app, so for example Sting 2 (https://maxforlive.com/library/device/12969/sting-2-acid-line-performance-system) is an excellent, free sequencer - just drop it in front of an instrument or drum kit, and bingo, instant joy. For synths and fx, I buy everything Fors put out (https://fors.fm/devices), lots of freebies too.
I’m currently doing most stuff in Logic, but it’s such a relief to when switching to Live, as the UI is so laptop friendly - particularly as I’m on a 14”!
Yeah I'm using a 14" laptop screen too for the most part. I can mirror to my tv and use the iPad Logic control app for mixing, but Logic is a bit cramped at times on a small screen.
I’d say take a look at Reason.
You can use it as a second separate and independent DAW with all the patching and cool stuff you can build in the racks and you can also use the racks as a plugin inside Logic.
If you end up not liking Reason as a DAW you get to keep all the cool synths, samplers, fx and and stuff inside Logic or any other DAW.
I use Logic on a 14” MBP all the time.
One secret from the old days to making it feel less cramped, which I’m sure you know, is to make use of screen sets. Change the screen with one key press and the screens are linked to your content.
I usually use a handful — I have a full screen mixer on 2 with a floating transport — one full screen piano roll I put on 4 (they march the key commands for opening the editors) etc. I also have multiple screens for the arrange window. One that has all the panels hidden and the tracks with minimal content displayed so I can see the full overview instantly and then return to exactly where I was before with another press of a key.
Saving different arrangements of screens/panels as screen sets definitely makes my MBP much more fun to use.
I would probably recommend Ableton over Bitwig. It’s just a much bigger ecosystem. Bitwig has cool unique aspects, for sure, as does Ableton. That said, both could make you happy, and no other DAW would contrast Logic as well as those two.
Since the topic is being discussed on this particular forum, I feel like I should point out that Ableton and Logic are the only macOS DAWs I'm aware of that can host AUv3 plugins. So if you have iOS plugins you want to use on Mac, Ableton might be a good alternative to Logic.
I really love Ableton, so much so that I built my entire studio around it (tons of Novation hardware).
I'm also a big fan of Logic on iPad and I find going back and forth between the two to be mostly painless. There are some areas where Logic seems unnecessarily fiddly, (some of that is probably not as much of an issue on desktop).
Ableton is just very streamlined in general which I like, yet it's also very powerful and it can be as robust as you want it to be.
Probably should have mentioned that I have bought Reason, but not really managed to appreciate it as a DAW yet, but as you say it's cool as a plug in anyway. As I got it in a sale at about £158 it's been a bit of a bargain to be honest!
Actually I didn't know that. I will look that up 😊
Thanks will go read the fine print of the deals!
Thanks for commenting
Thanks I didn't know that all DAWS can't use the ios AUV3 plugins, so that's handy to know!
Yeah, I’ve messed around a bit in Bitwig (I got the 8-track version free with something or other) and it’s very nice to look at and has some interesting workflow differences, but not hosting AUv3’s stopped me from going further.
Yep I had the iPad Logic for a year, but didn't renew my subscription. I've found since getting my Mac that I only use my iPad as a sound source through my SP404mk2. I've got hundreds of great iPad music making apps, but just prefer using the Mac and all my controllers since acquiring them. I know I could buy some more for the iPad, but somehow I've got bored of using my iPad - probably it's because after 11 years of making music on iPads, my Mac feels all shiny and new lol
I too have a Novation hardware controller - I think it can control Ableton and Bitwig. Will try see how it works with each one. Thanks for commenting!
Thanks I didn't know that all DAWS > @mjm1138 said:
While I've not used a lot of AUV3s since getting my Mac, I have used the Icegear and Moog apps quite a bit and would miss those ones
I just recently got an Ableton Move and I’ve been digging the combination of Note, Move and Live. Move is a pretty good Ableton controller as well as a groovebox, so it all flows together in a way that iPad Logic -> macOS Logic never really did for me. I still buy a lot of iOS music apps, but give special preference to apps that run on macOS too.
Yeah, those and the FAC apps and the KQ apps and the Cem apps…
I'm surprised my wife never comments about these controller boxes that keep appearing below the tv lol
I've not used much in the way of fx AUV3s on my Mac as yet, possibly due to Logic and Reason having me pretty well covered, but no doubt will in time. I'm all for trying new stuff hence my desire for another DAW I suppose lol
If I want a break from the timeline and just want to have a bit of a jam, Reason is great. I ignore the timeline and build things in the rack with the various sequencers and drum machines, patching stuff together and making the patch cables bounce when you switch the rack around aimlessly!
Also why not try using Logic in Live Loops mode with reason plugins for all the sounds and fx and hide the arrange window? That’ll feel like a new DAW ;-)
I personally think you have more than enough to explore for years with just Logic and Reason.
I bet there are a ton of instruments and fx you’ve never even loaded between the two of them.
Get to know Logic inside out and forget the grass being greener unless you like playing with stuff more than making music — and I mean that in a nice way honestly! Playing with all this tech is fun. But if you want to get music done, pick one and stick with it. Switching will just be a way to burn time and money. :-)
Every song I’ve ever finished has been made in Logic. I can honestly say there’s nothing I have ever wanted to do that I haven’t been able to do in Logic one way or another. There are usually multiple ways to achieve the same result . I think the same would go for any of the big DAWs. If you know what sound you want the DAW isn’t the limiting factor.