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Well there are the open source models which are actually quite good and run locally without the internet. As shit as AI may be in a lot of ways I do like the idea of all that potential knowledge being able to carry on and not get as lost in the next global calamity. Hopefully there is someone working on some kind of bullet proof solar powered laptop or tablet to run them that could be passed down for generations.
For the past 35 years my parents have insisted the computer makes the music, not me, heh, to them it is all about playing and singing.
Local computers will be the most vulnerable to an EMP event.
Yah, if they are plugged in and running. I'm talking uplugged and shielded, like how there are seed bank bunkers.
Unplugged or plugged won't make any difference. Shielding will.
Anyway. Those will be likely the least of our worries. Food, water, and not getting killed will probably be a bit higher on our priorities list than scrambling to see if our private AI model can still make us a good banger or some album cover art.
Back to your regularly scheduled program...
Haha well the local LLMs are handy for farming and electrical tips.
A friend of mine living off grid in the backwoods of Ontario gets a lot of great info from it. Definitely not talking about frivolous things.
It will for surges. Its not foolproof but much safer than being connected. It separates the machine from long external conductors.
He'll wish he had a firearm or two even more.
I've been influenced by the work of tens of thousands of people past and present in my career and in my art and music. I don't owe any of them anything, even though I will readily acknowledge their influence. I think a similar situation will ultimately be reached with generative art and music.
Either licensing deals will be made between services and those they include in their training data, or no money will trade hands and all data available for systems to scrape will be treated as "fair use"... or countries with far fewer ethical guidelines will dominate in A.I. development.
I believe a solution will be reached that allows these businesses to move forward aggressively and possibly pay a symbolic amount to cover past actions.
yah. I don't think you understand EMP too well.
but imma leave this OT now.
He has several of course.
You seem to think I am talking about running it during an EMP. That is definitely not what I am talking about.
In Canada? Interesting.
yah. I don't think you understand Canadian gun laws too well.
but imma leave this OT now.
Neither was I.
Maybe ChatGPT is wrong heh, wouldn't be the first time I suppose.
It's not the same thing, and trying to conflate both as such won't make it true. AI is stealing gigs from creatives like me by everyday people who'd rather save a few bucks than pay a talented artist who can create any music in any genre. It's not the same as someone who is influenced by the greats of the past who uses said influences to work as a fulltime producer.
My music is not "fair use", thank you. Who cares which country dominates in AI development? Is this the Space Race of the 1960s?
If this would be the case, they better pay me (and other musicians they stole from) monetary reparations we're owed.
@jwmmakerofmusic - sorry, but you're not owed anything because a competitor takes business away from you. The only way you could claim to be owed anything is if they made use of your work specifically in order to make a profit from it without your permission. You'd need to be able to prove that as well.
No major court has conclusively ruled that training itself is copyright infringement. So far courts have only focused on outputs not training. Companies are betting on fair use, but yah we shall see.
Sorry Mike, but I don't consider A.I. a "competitor". If another human being "took business away from me", I wouldn't have an issue with that. There ARE creators and producers out there who I admit are better than me. However, a bunch of code is not a "competitor". Try again.
You speak of AI as if it was a person. It isn't. It's implicit in what I said that a human or business entity is the one taking work away from you by making use of AI tools to compete against you.
Maybe an analogy will help. If I build wooden furniture with great skill and craftsmanship, but someone comes along with a CNC machine that can build wooden wooden furniture for less cost, and people choose to buy the lower cost items, I have no grounds to claim they're stealing business from me. They're just appealing to people who don't place the same priority on hand craftsmanship that I do.
I can complain all I want but that doesn't change the fact that they won over the clientele by making use of technology. That isn't stealing, it's winning over business by competition.
Now if they directly steal my designs, I might have some claim to go after them. I'd have to prove that the work was uniquely mine and that they directly copied it.
Ah, okay, I misunderstood what you were trying to explain. (Being neurodivergent, analogies help me understand what you're trying to say.) Doesn't mean I won't stop complaining. 😂
EDIT: Joking with the last sentence.
It's a discouraging time to be an artist of any kind.
If it were just "a bunch of code" that someone developed themselves that could produce all of these outputs I would be inclined to say, fair play, yah beat me and also I would be way more impressed. But yah, it is relatively speaking a very tiny bit of code and a whole bunch of creators material artificially massaged and weighted to produce outputs; benefitting from said creators labour, skills and talent, which is the part that stings.
New generations are going to use these things growing up, like they do legos to have fun, be creative and express themselves. They will be so immersed in it that they won’t even recognize that what they’re building with isn’t neutral raw material and that it’s the pulverized remains of real people’s work. Not references they discovered, studied, and internalized through effort, but a blended paste of other people’s voices made indistinguishable. And because the machine flattens everything into “style” or “pattern,” future users won’t distinguish between genuine influence and 'unearned' inheritance.
They may even believe they made something when, in truth, they mostly assembled it from uncredited ghosts. And not maliciously but innocently. Cheerfully. The way kids remix memes without knowing who first shot the photo or wrote the line. The gap between craft and configuration will collapse.
What to me will be interesting to see isn’t plagiarism or theft, it’s amnesia. That people will stop even feeling the need to ask where things come from. That originality won’t just become rare, it’ll become illegible.
I absolutely agree with that, my friend. We just gotta make the most of what time we do have on this planet. And I guess me complaining about shit I can't change is just taking time away from my being creative.
Yeah, that's precisely one of my concerns too that originality will become illegible. Sad.
From Mr GPT...
"Unplugging isn’t just about avoiding a direct blast from the EMP — it’s also about isolating your device from surges that start somewhere else and travel through infrastructure.
Think of it like this:
• A Carrington event or EMP induces massive currents into long conductors (power lines, grid transformers, telecom networks).
• Even if your local electromagnetic field isn’t especially strong, a transformer hundreds of kilometers away might fry, dumping a spike down the line.
• If your device is plugged in, that surge rides straight into it — even if your area barely felt the main pulse.
• If it’s unplugged, that “secondary damage” path is cut off.
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So yeah:
✅ Unplugging stops your device from acting as the endpoint of someone else’s disaster.
Even if an EMP or solar storm misses you directly, the grid itself becomes a giant antenna, and everything connected becomes collateral.
Unplugging doesn’t make something invincible — but it removes the biggest vulnerability: being wired into an uncontrolled, chaotic system."
But yah, it says lots of false stuff, so grain of salt as ussual,