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May start playing at church - any guitar chain suggestions?

FizzyLizzy27FizzyLizzy27
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I may start playing guitar at church here soon. It’s been years since I’ve played in that setting - last time was probably a decade ago in college when I had a decent pedal lineup. Now I have a decent plugin lineup - any suggestions on good signal chains? What about ensuring stability while performing?

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  • jacoujacou

    I’m using Gigfast with a nice Fender amp NAM + IR. It sounds and feels amazing. For some overdrive I put the Nembrini Black distortion (with very little gain) before it and send everything into the EOS2 reverb and Dubstation delay. My host of choice is AUM. It really sounds great at my church.

    My audio interface is the Toneshifter Mega wich is a combined audio interface and midi controller with 8 foot switches and 2 expression pedal inputs. A very light, compact and simple setup. I couldn’t be happier with it. I never had a problem. It’s very reliable. I just always make sure that the iPad is fully charged.

    What plugin chain / host / interface will you use?

  • wimwim

    The main thing to keep in mind is the difference you will inevitably run into with how things sound at home vs. in the church. You will want to think about things like reverb and eq with the mind to what you can put in for last minute adjustments. Also, you will mist likely be outputting to the mixer in mono, and the PA is most likely mono, so you should keep that in mind at home. The venue is going to contribute to reverb, so that can be a biggie. Level setting your presets is important too. Lead presets are often a lot louder than, say, clean rhythm.

    I'm not playing worship sets any more, but if I were to do things differently than I used to, it would be to simplify the number of presets I use, don't touch them once set, and just have basic EQ and output level there for extreme cases. I used to make the mistake of changing things according to how it felt in practice sound check. That's a bad idea. Get a decent output level without clipping (and IMO without a limiter, but people will violently argue over that point), then leave it to the sound person to deal with adjustments.

    Consider that I haven't played a church gig in 20 years though when you read all that though. 😂

  • wimwim

    oh ... and avoid the temptation use this, no matter how great it sounds. 😉

  • Tones4ChristTones4Christ

    Wow! Awesome advice brother!

    I've used my iPhone 12 pro max with the Tonex Max app. You can use any other Favorite guitar app either in Loopy Pro or AUM.

    If you decide to go the Tonex Max route, I recommend you purchase the app on IK Multimedia website! It will unlock the Tonex Max app in IOS!

    Levels are extremely important!

    I realized here at our church that if I keep my output levels at -12db it gives the FOH sound guys a lot of headroom and also allows me to not be near any ugly clipping! Has worked like a dream so far!

    @wim said:
    The main thing to keep in mind is the difference you will inevitably run into with how things sound at home vs. in the church. You will want to think about things like reverb and eq with the mind to what you can put in for last minute adjustments. Also, you will mist likely be outputting to the mixer in mono, and the PA is most likely mono, so you should keep that in mind at home. The venue is going to contribute to reverb, so that can be a biggie. Level setting your presets is important too. Lead presets are often a lot louder than, say, clean rhythm.

    I'm not playing worship sets any more, but if I were to do things differently than I used to, it would be to simplify the number of presets I use, don't touch them once set, and just have basic EQ and output level there for extreme cases. I used to make the mistake of changing things according to how it felt in practice sound check. That's a bad idea. Get a decent output level without clipping (and IMO without a limiter, but people will violently argue over that point), then leave it to the sound person to deal with adjustments.

    Consider that I haven't played a church gig in 20 years though when you read all that though. 😂

  • Tones4ChristTones4Christ

    Lord have mercy o:) :D <3

    @wim said:
    oh ... and avoid the temptation use this, no matter how great it sounds. 😉

  • FizzyLizzy27FizzyLizzy27

    I do have tonex - that is definitely worth checking into. I’m open to some patch suggestions!

    What interface do you use?

  • mjcouchemjcouche

    Assuming electric vs acoustic. EQ is definitely key. Simplify your setup, less cords the better.

    Turn off WiFi on you iPad/ iPhone.

    NAM + IRs sound amazing. AUM is the way - doing bus sends give you so many cool possibilities and control over the overall sound.

    Have backup batteries. Don’t wait until Sunday morning to try out a setup. Test it multiple times. Every once in a while I’ve had to reload plugins after loading a saved AUM template. Make sure your sample rate is consistent.

    @Tones4Christ recommended the XSonic XTone Pro. So far in testing it I love it, but haven’t been able to use it for prime time yet. Before that I was using a Shure MVi into a DI box into the mixer, with a BlueBoard and expression pedal.

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