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Midi 2.0 - lables on korg keystage
Im using my Korg Keystage 49 to play my Moog Sirin.
The Sirin has a lot of funcions that cant be directly controlled on the interface, so I will use my Korg to control them.
The keystage has midi 2.0 so its able to show the lables instead of midi cc numbers, but the Moog sirin isnt.
I was wondering if there would be an app for my iPad that could work as a bridge between the Moog and the Keystage and label the midi cc’s that I want, so the Keystage would see the names and the Moog would receive the data.
I cant be the first one to get that idea, so maybe someone have made an app that can do that? crossed fingers
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Your question has triggered me to start checking out MIDI 2.0 to understand the protocol. Hopefully, someone has started
Checking out these new MIDI features.
NOTE: I would change your spelling to LABELS in the title to help attract the right “expert”.
You definitely could be the first one to ask here… this does seem like a solution space that will grow as more MIDI 2.0 hardware is announced. Might take a few years to catch on. I suspect a DAW will eventually help adapt a non-2.0 device interoperating with a 2.0 controller like this Korg keyboard.
I don't see any Sysex reference or MIDI reference for the Sirin that would indicate you can set the labels from external input. Something like that would surely need to be managed using Sysex or OSC, but if the Sirin doesn't support either, or support MIDI 2.0, there isn't any possible way to make something like that work.
If there's a reference manual out there with a Sysex specification, it's not obvious where to find it.
Im using mfxConvert on my iPad to route the midi cc from my Keystage to the Sirin, so that part is working,
I was just hoping to be able to put labels on the Keystage on the CC's that Im using.
Hopefully there will be more midi 2.0 stuff in the future, right now it seems like its on a slow start.. :-)
The problem is the Sirin. You can't tell it to do to something that it doesn't have the capability to do. The Sirin has no facility to set labels via MIDI (or any other protocol).
I believe the OP was just looking for an iOS app that could set the labels on the Keystage, not trying to make the Sirin do something it cannot. I don't believe there are any such apps. And it looks like devices that use MIDI 2.0, like the new Keystage, don't document those features. They just rely on integration with certain desktop DAWs.
Keystage seems to support MIDI SysEx for sending text to displays.
Mozaic, Streambyter and Drambo should be able to do it.
https://community.gigperformer.com/t/example-display-message-on-korg-keystage-oled/21427
That's good. I'd just warn that StreamByter has no text variables; you'd need to enter the string as an array of hex bytes. Also, StreamByter cannot send a SysEx message longer than 16 bytes, including the prefix and end marker, so that's a bit limiting.
Sorry all, I misread the original post. I see now that the intent was to display on the Keystage.
Still, that's a very tall order for Streambyter or Mozaic. There would be a lot of serious coding involved. Lack of string variables is probably not an issue since everything would be converted to hex, but building the translations and dynamically setting up the sysex messages would be complex to say the least. Mozaic might be the better choice.
While theoretically it's possible, I honestly don't think it's practical. There's no existing "bridge" app of that sort either.
16 bytes only? Oh no!
Thanks for the info, I didn't yet stumble over this limitation but it's very good to know.
Yeah, my spontaneous pick would be Lemur with its own DIY ASCII keyboard.
BTW, if anyone has missed it, the old Lemur is available again as "LemurLegacy" in your purchase history, if you had it before.
If I wanted it in Mozaic, I would use the pads as snapshots for different instruments.