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Managing sound dynamics in a performance settings - what tools would you use?

I was playing in church this morning where the songs can have a lot of build ups and softer sections. The sound guy mentioned that he was having to “play the faders” more or less to keep the sounds in check. Wouldn’t there be some plugins and tons to handle this? I feel like a limiter would help keep things from getting too loud, but not sure how else you’d handle dynamics in a live band setting like that.

This is purely out of curiosity - I don’t know what tools they use or anything.

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  • @FizzyLizzy27 said:
    I was playing in church this morning where the songs can have a lot of build ups and softer sections. The sound guy mentioned that he was having to “play the faders” more or less to keep the sounds in check. Wouldn’t there be some plugins and tons to handle this? I feel like a limiter would help keep things from getting too loud, but not sure how else you’d handle dynamics in a live band setting like that.

    This is purely out of curiosity - I don’t know what tools they use or anything.

    Dynamics management is something a performer needs to practice and be aware of. While the sound person is expected to do some of the work, some of the work is the performer’s responsibility.

    Unless the sound person knows your songs and arrangements, they are going to be responding after the fact.

    There are tools like compressors that can help BUT before using those, you need awareness of both the dynamics you want AND your actual levels so that you know what instruments need it and how to set it. Relying on compressors and limiters will lead to fatigued ears and lack of dynamics.

    Recording rehearsals and watching individual levels can help you be aware of the dynamic range and give you an idea of how loud or quietly you are playing.

  • One of the common challenges in church settings is stage monitoring. If the band doesn't have good monitoring it's really hard to judge dynamics. We always had big challenges in that area because it was a small church and the monitors affected the house volume.

    Plus there's always a bunch of older folks wanting things turned down, kids wanting to rock out, and usually a pastor who thinks he's a sound engineer. Impossible to win. I feel sorry for church sound guys except in really big churches where they're safely tucked away where no one can easily get to them.

    Our sound guy showed me how he could appear to be diligently adjusting faders without actually doing anything even with someone looking over his shoulder. Pastor would run back there, whisper in his ear, and he would busily "adjust" things. Pastor went away happy every time. 😂

  • Just want to add my .02€ but you mentioned that a limiter would help things not get too loud, but that’s basically the opposite of what it does, it lets things get too loud and sound louder, by brick wall limit the sound before peaking so it doesn’t hit the red but smashes all dynamics
    What you want is probably the opposite, letting the full dynamic range untouched (so it breathes in such a space) and keeping levels in check at the source
    Maybe some gentle compression at most, and eq work you would have to set beforehand

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