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Best way to integrate iPad into my hardware setup?
Quite new to iPad music making and having a blast using it on its own but really keen to get it integrated with my hardware.
My current set up is -
Elektron Syntakt, Digitakt, Digitone, Analog Heat 2
Novation Peak
MPC One
Waldorf Pulse 2
Syncussion
Roland S1
TD3
Keystep + Launchkey Mini mk4
1010 Bluebox Mixer
CME WIDI Thru6 Bluetooth Midi splitter
Looking to be able to sequence and send midi to the hardware from the iPad as well as applying FX apps to the incoming audio. Haven't bought it yet but will be using AUM.
The Bluebox now has USB class audio so it can send/receive audio for iPad FX but limited to just the master out.
Anyone with a similar setup got any tips for how they've integrated their iPad?
Thinking it's probably worth getting an audio interface if I want to do multitrack, I know Overbridge is in development for iOS which will be amazing for the elektron gear but obviously not available yet.
Any help much appreciated!
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I use an 8 port powered USB hub connected to a 4 channel audio interface that also has MIDI (Behringer UMC404). I have a second MIDI interface and a Keystep 37 plugged into the USB hub and at times a third MIDI interface or another keyboard - in other words lots of stuff all connected to an M1 iPad via USB. I usually use a small powered USB hub at the iPad to keep it charged and the 8 port hub plugs into that small hub. AUM allows you to route MIDI between apps and external devices but you still have to connect the MIDI cables to your external synths of course. Cable the audio from your external synths to the audio interface where AUM lets you add effects, mix, set levels etc.
AUM turns the iPad into a MIDI patchbay of sorts and a very flexible audio mixer/effects unit/recorder. You can sequence external synths and record MIDI with apps like Helium. This setup works with Loopy and other DAWs but none of them are as straightforward for routing as AUM.
Audio isolators are needed at times to get rid of ground loop buzz from all the different power sources. I have about a dozen wall warts powering modular stuff, the hub, external synths etc etc. This setup is a bit of a cable nightmare but it works extremely well.
^^^ this guy hubs
Thanks so much for the detailed response, but damn thats a lot of hubs and interfaces!
I only have a small studio room and a fair amount of gear so not a lot of desk space for loads of hubs, interfaces and cables.
Was hoping that the bluetooth midi splitter I've got will be the solution for midi routing via AUM and save me space but I know BT midi isn't the most reliable especially with more complex routing.
Been looking at the Scarlett 16i16 as an audio interface which also has midi.
The problem for your CME WIDI Thru6 Bluetooth device is that AUM will see it as a single virtual MIDI port. So you will need to use MIDI channels and possibly channel filters (a feature of AUM) to keep the data going to the right places. Wired USB MIDI interfaces will generally present multiple ports, making it easier to route MIDI to the correct apps, and out to the correct hardware. You should get AUM and experiment with it and your Thru6, to see what it can and cannot do.
You can get by with a compact powered hub. I started with one that has USB C to plug into the iPad, a USB C power port for the Apple power adapter and 4 USB A ports. It will do a good job for a small setup and keeps the iPad charged.
I use Bluetooth MIDI as well but it does not hold up well for multiple devices or a lot of traffic.
Would something like this work?
https://www.amazon.nl/dp/B091F7C5K4/?coliid=I1Z5YOR47QNZ45&colid=7OAXJYY0IA2M&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_ys_dp_ii
That would work but it doesn’t have pass thru power delivery to keep the iPad charged. I use this one now - only three USB A but it also has four USB C ports.
https://www.amazon.ca/VANGREE-Delivery-Splitter-Multiport-Expander/dp/B0BL9F5S6R/ref=asc_df_B0BL9F5S6R?mcid=7c7f803fc39631508d678ca019a86d56&tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=706843729118&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=157490617720242942&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=t&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9000698&hvtargid=pla-1944720586239&psc=1&hvocijid=157490617720242942-B0BL9F5S6R-&hvexpln=0&gad_source=1
Because I have a lot of older stuff that needs USB A I have a second 8 port powered hub that plugs into this one.
Thanks, could I use a non powered hub that has PD? I already have this one https://tinyurl.com/Ugreen-Revodok
I won't be using anything that needs to be powered by the iPad.
Cheers. Definitely need to do some experimentation, patiently waiting/hoping for AUM to go on sale..
Hmm. Not sure if that ever happens.
Seems to have been reduced to £14.95 around black Friday for the last few years according to appraven, hoping it will again
Your hub with PD is essentially a "powered hub", so it is fine. But you may need more USB ports than it has.
Hi. Looks like I was wrong on AUM sales; it's on sale now.