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I have problems with many things Apple does, but I am on Apple's side on this one.
Compensation for what? Buying apps they choose to buy?
Apple should get paid for running the app store and 15% is reasonable.
Yay! Some lawyers (solicitors) made a butt load of money and "millions" of UK users may be able to by an extra cup of coffee in year or three if they know how to cash in on their piece of the pie. Then Apple will factor that into their next pricing tiers adjustment for the UK to get their £1.5bn back from all UK buyers.
Ain't justice grand?
It's not a problem that Apple gets paid for running the app store. The problem is that they force everyone to use the app store.
If you develop an app, and I want to buy it, why should we be forced into Apple's marketplace just so they can take a cut? It's anti-competitive. The end result is that developers get less money for their work, and have to charge higher prices, which means we pay more money for the same product. All so Apple can get a piece of the pie that they did nothing to earn.
Because Apple has developed the hardware device and also the developer's software tools needed to make an app.
You don't take your homemade food into a cafe and sit down and eat.
I don't think an iphone is like a cafe. I own my phone, it's right here in my house. I should be able to put apps onto it without Apple's permission.
Suppose there are two microwave manufacturers (and there's no other way to cook food). If you buy the Apple Microwave, you can only go to Apple supermarkets to buy food for it. And every farmer who wants to sell food has to sell their food at the Apple supermarket. And it's the pretty much the same deal for the Android microwave. Does that seem fair?
The only reason Apple does this is because they can make more money. There's no real argument against an alternative app store. And why does this only apply to ios? Would it be okay if you could only get software for your Mac or Windows computer on a single store?
Security. Apple checks apps before putting them on the app store.
But, yes, there are arguments on both sides.
I'd prefer things the way they are now with Apple taking a reasonable cut in return for running the app store. Refunds are easy, and I don't have to give my credit card or other details to dozens of anonymous, one-man developers around the world. The small amount of money you might save by removing "the middle man" isn't worth it to me.
If you buy a product of your own free will, that clearly comes with those conditions, then why should you feel it's unfair and why do you feel they should unilaterally be forced to change the rules after the sale?
You did not have to buy an iPhone. They didn't hide the terms from you. Apple isn't a monopoly. They make up less than 25% of the mobile device market. There's nothing essential that compels anyone to buy only an Apple phone.
Is it intrinsically wrong for a company to "try to make more money?"
Yes, if they are supplying an essential service and if they're the only or the overwhelming majority supplier. No if it's discretionary. You can always vote with your wallet. Many, many people do.
Unfortunately for us musicians, they're the only viable game in town. They've earned that distinction however. Nobody else has stepped up. That isn't Apple's fault.
Just to be clear here ... I think it's a bad strategy to force only the AppStore, and I'd love to see more competition. I just don't buy that it's unfair or that it's government's job to force them to do so just because I feel that way. I knew what I was getting into, and I will continue to factor that in the next time I purchase a new device.
Because I think it’s unfair. I want those conditions to be illegal. That’s all.
I also don’t like when companies stop you from third party repairs. I support right to repair laws. I support a lot of regulations to prevent companies from gouging customers or other vendors.
I don’t really care about how Apple feels. I think they’re greedy and I don’t like how they do business, and I’d like the government (representing the people) to step in and force them to be better.
I don't think I'd like to live in your world @timfromtheborder. I'd prefer to take responsibility for my own purchasing decisions than expect a government to forcefully bend others to my will. That's a slippery slope.
But to each their own. ✌🏼
You feel that strongly and you still bought an Apple phone?
You already live in my world. Everything you buy is subject to regulation. I suppose you are a libertarian or similar, but we do not live in a libertarian society (wherever you may live — I’m sure it’s not so).
I wonder, does it bother you that car manufacturers have to put seatbelts and airbags into their products?
Sure, why not? I like my ipad, it’s a good device. One thing I really love about it is that the government forced Apple to adopt USB-C, because it’s a great standard and I have other USB-C devices. That benefited me as a consumer. Now, why would I not support further regulations to make my experience better? Isn’t that the point of democracy? We shouldn’t accept that corporations can just do whatever they want.
Yes, but we differ in the degree we feel government intervention is appropriate. I'm not a libertarian, but I'm not a socialist either. It's not worth arguing about to me, and never results in a meeting of the minds on this subject.
Though I should know better, I let my guard against pointless political discussion down for a bit. I'm done. 😎
Cheers. And Happy Thanksgiving if you celebrate it.✌🏼
@wim fair enough. I’m not sure how I ended up in this part of the forum anyhow… best be going.
No Thanksgiving here, but I hope yours is good.
Very true. Same goes with governments.