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Anyone tried 18.7.3?
Seems fine here.
26.1 absolutely fine too
dendy, you are a scholar and a gentleman. Thank you.
Obviously, I’m not the expert here, but I’m experiencing no issues with 26.2.
I’m on an 11th gen iPad A16.
I’m still on 18.7.3 (on my 2019 iPad Mini), pondering whether I should update to 26.3 🤔
Anyone tried it with NS2 yet?
26.3 check all systems Go👨🏽🚀
NS2 seems to be doing quite well on iOS 26, but I don’t want the rest of the changes so I am sticking with 18 for now.
absolutely rock solid
I updated to 26 on my phone. Mostly seems like a bunch of pointless cosmetic rearrangements.
Debating whether I want it on the iPad. Guess I should at some point for security fixes and such… 🤷♀️
Anyway, good to know NS2 will work. Thanks friends 👍
Anyone waded into 26.4 yet?
I ended up installing 26.4
NS2 seems fine on it so far as I can tell 👍
Shite I did a stupid thing. My NS2 was offloaded and now because it’s no longer on the store it I can’t reinstall it.
Aw shit that sucks. Bloody BlipInteractive. All he had to do was pay $100 annually to keep it in the store. I spent more than that on a bunch of songwriting books and still had money left over for groceries and bills. 😂 Blip has no excuse.
100%.
Although I'm also pointing at Apple for not letting us back up our own apps.
Ridiculous.
He had to hold company, pay to website, pay accountant event through there is no income from app, pay probably X another fees needed to have running company, etc.. Tons of bureaucracy and wasted money.. Not mentioning constant mails from customers..
It’s way more for such app than just “$99/year apple fee” (and i am not sure but i think he had company not private developer account which costs $200 or something like that) - lots of annoyng stuff for nothing.. Matt did all of that basically almost for free last few years.. I would do same as him sooner ..
I hope you're not being serious with that comment. It's absurd enough that I'm gonna assume you're joking.
The only selfish actor here is Apple. What it would cost them to simply keep hosting the download is statistically insignificant. If it's too much for the worlds biggest company to handle, they could offer a modest one-time charge to preserve downloads when a developer closes out their account. If it was fair, it'd be practically nothing, and I bet most developers would pay it.
European Union is pretty fucking annoying actor tooin this game … that “trader” legislative whuch forced devs to expose postal address and phone for commercial apps is massive pain in ass and reason why many developers removet their apps from EU appstore, other trying green zone by claiming they are not “traders” - bit nibody is 100% sure what is right .. fucking bureaucrats in Brussels
@wim I...may...or may not have been a little stoned when typing that. 😂 Of course I was half-joking, but also grouchy that such an amazing app was pulled at all. (I relied on it for client work.) Apple suck for not allowing anyone to back up the app without requiring a computer and their many, many fees as @dendy pointed out. The EU as well as Dendy pointed out.
Did you have NS2 on more than one device? An older iPhone or iPad? If so you could use iMazing and get the app back.
Unfortunately not. It's too late for iMazing once the app is no longer in the App Store. iMazing doesn't (can't) back up apps from the device. It can only back them up from the App Store.
After reading this, I checked and exactly the same thing had happened to me on my iPad as I had allowed app offloading to clear enough space for a system update. Luckily I had backed up the IPA file with iMazing on my Mac when NanoStudio 2 was still in the App Store. What did surprise me was that all my IAPs and NanoStudio files reappeared after reinstalling the IPA file. These files were not backed up so I can only assume they were downloaded from the Apple servers when I installed the file.
When you offload an app, all the user data is preserved on the device and only the program files are removed. You didn't lose data because that's how the offload function is designed to work. The data is on device, not in the Apple servers.
Had you removed the app rather than offloading it, you would have lost all your data and IAPs.
Thanks, that’s good to know. I’m still surprised that Apple doesn’t offload IAPs as they can often take up more space than the app.
I think @audiomike said his copy was “offloaded”
I’ve never done that, so I’m not sure where he stands, but NS2 on another device should still be capable of a BU & restore via iMazing. I don’t know of an iPhone copy can be used on the iPad, but I thought it might be worth a try.
Sorry, but it will simply not work. iMazing can only download from the App Store. If the app is gone from the App Store then it's beyond iMazing's reach. You can only restore with iMazing if you backed up the app before it was completely removed from the App Store.
This is true even if you have another device with the app still installed. iMazing never backs up apps from a device. It can only back up from the App Store.
The only functional difference between offloading an app and deleting it is, when offloading, all the user data is kept on the device. However, the app files are removed and must be downloaded from the App Store or restored from an iMazing backup just as though the app was deleted.
Device to device restore only transfers user data. Apps are downloaded from the store. (Always the latest available version + you are forced to update the OS as well.)
I'm not belaboring the point to be pedantic. I take every opportunity to try to clarify so that people will be aware of the limitations and leverage iMazing while (if) they can if they care about preserving their apps.
For further details: https://forum.loopypro.com/discussion/comment/1363294/#Comment_1363294
OK! Thanks for that clarification! It’s good to know that. I thought offloaded apps were different.
Not to beat a dead horse, but if one got a new iPhone and decided to set up the new iPhone as a BU of the old iPhone (previously backed up to iMazing) that has NS2 on it, would the new iPhone have NS2 on it or no? Do all future back ups of my iPhone via iMazing still have NS2? And should I need to reset my current iPhone and restore it from a back up (for unknown reason), would NS2 reload? I’m trying to get an idea of what to expect. It is just simply that if NS2 is on the device now it will remain, but if I ever remove it, I can’t get it back? Even with previous iMazing back-ups?
When you restored to the new iPhone, NS2 would not be restored. However, you could then follow-on and install NS2 from an iMazing backup using a Mac or Windows desktop.
I need to clarify how app backups with iMazing work. There are two types of iMazing backups with important differences.
So, the question isn't really answerable as asked. You can back up your iPhone as much as you like, but those backups will never be usable for app restores, only for recovering data.
You can back up any apps in your Apple account, as long as they still exist in the App Store. Once backed up, the file is stored on your desktop and can be restored to any device that uses the same Apple ID.
You can even keep multiple versions of these app backups if you back them up before the app is updated in the store. If you backed up an app, then a later version is released, and you back it up again, both versions will be preserved, and you could restore the older version if you ever needed to.
However, if you didn't back up the app before the new version was released, you could not then back up the older version. Remember, iMazing can only back up apps from what's available on the App Store. It never backs up apps (as opposed to data) from the device. 😕
NS2 would not initially reload because apps are "restored" only from the App Store. You could however use iMazing to put NS2 back as a separate operation if you have an iMazing backup already. Just to be clear though: if you don't already have an iMazing app backup of NS2, you will never be able to get it onto the new/restored device.
Interesting question about the NS2 data. I think it would be transferred to the new device and be available to NS2 after it was restored with iMazing. I'm far from sure though.
Thanks again for the valuable iMazing insights! I thought I understood how it worked, but I did not understand there was a difference between data back ups and app back ups. Or I forgot. Now I’m doubting what I did a year or so ago. Perhaps I am not as prepped as I thought. I have it on 2 iPhones and 2 iPads, so I should be OK even without the app backed up properly via iMazing. Fingers crossed that I did back up the app and not just the iPhone. Pretty sure I did, but….
If not I’ve got an iPad mini 5 with NS2 loaded I’ll sell ya 😉 (just don’t ask the condition of the screen 😬)
If you have access to iMazing it's pretty easy to see what you have by selecting a device, then going to the Manage Apps tab. Library shows what you've backed up, and Device shows what's on the device.
In Library, if you see a download icon then that version hasn't been backed up. If you see a trash can icon it has been backed up. You may see more than one version listed.
It takes quite a bit of manual management, but I like to keep some of the older versions around just in case.
I'm glad this subject came up because I've been very lax indeed in backing up my apps lately.