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  • @michael_m said:

    @NeuM said:

    @michael_m said:

    @Gavinski said:
    The whole AI thing will make real people playing acoustic things very sexy again. People will grow tired of all the confected AI junk, they will value authenticity and there'll be a big folk revival, I'd say, with an emphasis on live performance.

    I think it still is. There’s definitely less interest in someone pulling out their phone and get an AI app to play a piece of music compared to somebody pulling out an acoustic guitar and playing and singing, imperfections and all.

    How many buskers have you seen holding up a phone or laptop compared to somebody playing a guitar or other instrument? It’s also not much fun to sit around as a group outside and sing along with an AI app.

    I know there are people here who use AI to create all or part of their music, but to me the end result isn’t as interesting as the experience of getting there.

    Reposting this, not because I like want to spam the forum with the same piece of music I posted before, but because it’s an example of me just having fun and creating something myself. I enjoyed playing around with some ideas, recorded to my phone, then took it to my laptop to finish off with a few effects I chose myself. I’m sure I could have created this with AI (and it probably wouldn’t have miscounted bars a couple of times…), but where’s the enjoyment in that?

    One take, me playing the instrument, and introducing quite a few human faults along the way.

    You know, one of the reasons I like the Flaming Lips so much is because you hear the handmade quality of their songs. The lead singer's voice cracks, instruments go in and out of tune, they don't quite hit their cue sometimes. I love that stuff.

    After Ozzy died I kept hearing early Sabbath songs, and listened to War Pigs closer than I had before. It’s amazing how often the bass guitar and the kick drum are out of sync. Doesn’t detract from it at all even though I can’t ever unhear that.

    Also, when Queen remixed and remastered their first album last year they added a lot in terms of improving the low quality recording of the instruments, but The Night Comes Down had the vocals pitch corrected quite obviously. It took something away - Freddie drifted off key slightly here and there and made the original sound very vulnerable and heartfelt. Someone missed the point entirely when they thought it was a good idea to make the vocal performance perfect.

    Good examples.

  • @NeuM said:

    To be fair, no one with less than 10 years experience under their belt is worth listening to. Experience counts.

    To be fair, the musicians in U2 took up their instruments at around age 13 and were well worth listening to by age 20. The John, Paul and George had all played their instruments for less than 10 years before they had a reputation as a formidable live act well before their record debut. There are plenty of other examples. Most people might not have much to say on their instrument but NO ONE is a stretch.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    To be fair, no one with less than 10 years experience under their belt is worth listening to. Experience counts.

    To be fair, the musicians in U2 took up their instruments at around age 13 and were well worth listening to by age 20. The John, Paul and George had all played their instruments for less than 10 years before they had a reputation as a formidable live act well before their record debut. There are plenty of other examples. Most people might not have much to say on their instrument but NO ONE is a stretch.

    I hope you understand when a person uses a phrase like "No one (says/does)..." it's simply shorthand for the purpose of communicating an idea. It is not meant literally. If I were to say "Fifty percent of all car owners prefer whitewall tires" or something like that... well, that's a statistic that can be checked. "No one" is not a statistic. It's an opinion. Have a great weekend.

  • @NeuM said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    To be fair, no one with less than 10 years experience under their belt is worth listening to. Experience counts.

    To be fair, the musicians in U2 took up their instruments at around age 13 and were well worth listening to by age 20. The John, Paul and George had all played their instruments for less than 10 years before they had a reputation as a formidable live act well before their record debut. There are plenty of other examples. Most people might not have much to say on their instrument but NO ONE is a stretch.

    I hope you understand when a person uses a phrase like "No one (says/does)..." it's simply shorthand for the purpose of communicating an idea. It is not meant literally. If I were to say "Fifty percent of all car owners prefer whitewall tires" or something like that... well, that's a statistic that can be checked. "No one" is not a statistic. It's an opinion. Have a great weekend.

    Come on guys lets not repeat the Fight / Fight thread.

  • @ecou said:

    @NeuM said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @NeuM said:

    To be fair, no one with less than 10 years experience under their belt is worth listening to. Experience counts.

    To be fair, the musicians in U2 took up their instruments at around age 13 and were well worth listening to by age 20. The John, Paul and George had all played their instruments for less than 10 years before they had a reputation as a formidable live act well before their record debut. There are plenty of other examples. Most people might not have much to say on their instrument but NO ONE is a stretch.

    I hope you understand when a person uses a phrase like "No one (says/does)..." it's simply shorthand for the purpose of communicating an idea. It is not meant literally. If I were to say "Fifty percent of all car owners prefer whitewall tires" or something like that... well, that's a statistic that can be checked. "No one" is not a statistic. It's an opinion. Have a great weekend.

    Come on guys lets not repeat the Fight / Fight thread.

    It’s OK. No one is fighting.

  • @NeuM said:

    @ecou said:

    @michael_m said:

    @ecou said:

    @michael_m said:
    Anyone remember what a certain executive at Decca Records said in the early 1960s?

    No but I can just imagine lol. Something about rock and roll being done ?

    Decca Records rejected the Beatles in 1962, giving the reason as: “Guitar music is on its way out.” 😂

    lol Anytime now !

    @NeuM said:

    @ecou said:

    @NeuM said:
    I agree that guitar-centric music is having a bit of a renaissance at this time in music trends. Some very hot innovative players are out there right now.

    I would like to ear to if you wanna share links.

    @michael_m said:
    Anyone remember what a certain executive at Decca Records said in the early 1960s?

    No but I can just imagine lol. Something about rock and roll being done ?

    To simplify things, several of the people I know of are included in this coverage. You may already know of them:
    https://instrufest.com/best-modern-guitarists/

    I tought you meant new talents. Those are all artist at least 15 years into their career.

    Somebody like this guy.

    To be fair, no one with less than 10 years experience under their belt is worth listening to. Experience counts.

    True in most cases. As a pianist I was a child prodigy, giving solo performances since age 11 (after starting learning at age 9) to high acclaim.

    Now my music production on the other hand? Most of what I made the first 10 years of producing music was a bit shit. Not just with (lack of) production skills either. A lot of my ideas ranged from mid to cringy shlock. 😂 Here's one of my better ideas which I remade.

    https://on.soundcloud.com/MFw2t8X78UVTcZaVhn

    "Scarlet" was one of my first productions. The difference 22 years made is night and day. Now if only I could improve my visual art from mediocre to spectacular. 😂

  • edited January 18

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @NeuM said:

    @ecou said:

    @michael_m said:

    @ecou said:

    @michael_m said:
    Anyone remember what a certain executive at Decca Records said in the early 1960s?

    No but I can just imagine lol. Something about rock and roll being done ?

    Decca Records rejected the Beatles in 1962, giving the reason as: “Guitar music is on its way out.” 😂

    lol Anytime now !

    @NeuM said:

    @ecou said:

    @NeuM said:
    I agree that guitar-centric music is having a bit of a renaissance at this time in music trends. Some very hot innovative players are out there right now.

    I would like to ear to if you wanna share links.

    @michael_m said:
    Anyone remember what a certain executive at Decca Records said in the early 1960s?

    No but I can just imagine lol. Something about rock and roll being done ?

    To simplify things, several of the people I know of are included in this coverage. You may already know of them:
    https://instrufest.com/best-modern-guitarists/

    I tought you meant new talents. Those are all artist at least 15 years into their career.

    Somebody like this guy.

    To be fair, no one with less than 10 years experience under their belt is worth listening to. Experience counts.

    True in most cases. As a pianist I was a child prodigy, giving solo performances since age 11 (after starting learning at age 9) to high acclaim.

    Now my music production on the other hand? Most of what I made the first 10 years of producing music was a bit shit. Not just with (lack of) production skills either. A lot of my ideas ranged from mid to cringy shlock. 😂 Here's one of my better ideas which I remade.

    https://on.soundcloud.com/MFw2t8X78UVTcZaVhn

    "Scarlet" was one of my first productions. The difference 22 years made is night and day. Now if only I could improve my visual art from mediocre to spectacular. 😂

    The “ten years” thing wasn’t my idea, it was a theory put forth in the book by Malcolm Gladwell, called Outliers. He discovered that people who committed at least 10 years (or 10,000 hours) of study and practice were able to achieve mastery of that skill. Some take issue with his assessment, since every rule has exceptions.

  • @NeuM said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @NeuM said:

    @ecou said:

    @michael_m said:

    @ecou said:

    @michael_m said:
    Anyone remember what a certain executive at Decca Records said in the early 1960s?

    No but I can just imagine lol. Something about rock and roll being done ?

    Decca Records rejected the Beatles in 1962, giving the reason as: “Guitar music is on its way out.” 😂

    lol Anytime now !

    @NeuM said:

    @ecou said:

    @NeuM said:
    I agree that guitar-centric music is having a bit of a renaissance at this time in music trends. Some very hot innovative players are out there right now.

    I would like to ear to if you wanna share links.

    @michael_m said:
    Anyone remember what a certain executive at Decca Records said in the early 1960s?

    No but I can just imagine lol. Something about rock and roll being done ?

    To simplify things, several of the people I know of are included in this coverage. You may already know of them:
    https://instrufest.com/best-modern-guitarists/

    I tought you meant new talents. Those are all artist at least 15 years into their career.

    Somebody like this guy.

    To be fair, no one with less than 10 years experience under their belt is worth listening to. Experience counts.

    True in most cases. As a pianist I was a child prodigy, giving solo performances since age 11 (after starting learning at age 9) to high acclaim.

    Now my music production on the other hand? Most of what I made the first 10 years of producing music was a bit shit. Not just with (lack of) production skills either. A lot of my ideas ranged from mid to cringy shlock. 😂 Here's one of my better ideas which I remade.

    https://on.soundcloud.com/MFw2t8X78UVTcZaVhn

    "Scarlet" was one of my first productions. The difference 22 years made is night and day. Now if only I could improve my visual art from mediocre to spectacular. 😂

    The “ten years” thing wasn’t my idea, it was a theory put forth in the book by Malcolm Gladwell, called Outliers. He discovered that people who committed at least 10 years (or 10,000 hours) of study and practice were able to achieve mastery of that skill. Some take issue with his assessment, since every rule has exceptions.

    Ah cool. :) I don't take issue woth Malcolm's assessment myself. He's not entirely wrong. ;)

  • @NeuM said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @NeuM said:

    @ecou said:

    @michael_m said:

    @ecou said:

    @michael_m said:
    Anyone remember what a certain executive at Decca Records said in the early 1960s?

    No but I can just imagine lol. Something about rock and roll being done ?

    Decca Records rejected the Beatles in 1962, giving the reason as: “Guitar music is on its way out.” 😂

    lol Anytime now !

    @NeuM said:

    @ecou said:

    @NeuM said:
    I agree that guitar-centric music is having a bit of a renaissance at this time in music trends. Some very hot innovative players are out there right now.

    I would like to ear to if you wanna share links.

    @michael_m said:
    Anyone remember what a certain executive at Decca Records said in the early 1960s?

    No but I can just imagine lol. Something about rock and roll being done ?

    To simplify things, several of the people I know of are included in this coverage. You may already know of them:
    https://instrufest.com/best-modern-guitarists/

    I tought you meant new talents. Those are all artist at least 15 years into their career.

    Somebody like this guy.

    To be fair, no one with less than 10 years experience under their belt is worth listening to. Experience counts.

    True in most cases. As a pianist I was a child prodigy, giving solo performances since age 11 (after starting learning at age 9) to high acclaim.

    Now my music production on the other hand? Most of what I made the first 10 years of producing music was a bit shit. Not just with (lack of) production skills either. A lot of my ideas ranged from mid to cringy shlock. 😂 Here's one of my better ideas which I remade.

    https://on.soundcloud.com/MFw2t8X78UVTcZaVhn

    "Scarlet" was one of my first productions. The difference 22 years made is night and day. Now if only I could improve my visual art from mediocre to spectacular. 😂

    The “ten years” thing wasn’t my idea, it was a theory put forth in the book by Malcolm Gladwell, called Outliers. He discovered that people who committed at least 10 years (or 10,000 hours) of study and practice were able to achieve mastery of that skill. Some take issue with his assessment, since every rule has exceptions.

    I don’t think that’s the only argument against his proposed rule. Counter-arguments have pointed out that mastery in his proposed case does not include less objectivity defined aspects of art, music, etc. where quantitative factors are much less important.

  • @michael_m said:

    @NeuM said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @NeuM said:

    @ecou said:

    @michael_m said:

    @ecou said:

    @michael_m said:
    Anyone remember what a certain executive at Decca Records said in the early 1960s?

    No but I can just imagine lol. Something about rock and roll being done ?

    Decca Records rejected the Beatles in 1962, giving the reason as: “Guitar music is on its way out.” 😂

    lol Anytime now !

    @NeuM said:

    @ecou said:

    @NeuM said:
    I agree that guitar-centric music is having a bit of a renaissance at this time in music trends. Some very hot innovative players are out there right now.

    I would like to ear to if you wanna share links.

    @michael_m said:
    Anyone remember what a certain executive at Decca Records said in the early 1960s?

    No but I can just imagine lol. Something about rock and roll being done ?

    To simplify things, several of the people I know of are included in this coverage. You may already know of them:
    https://instrufest.com/best-modern-guitarists/

    I tought you meant new talents. Those are all artist at least 15 years into their career.

    Somebody like this guy.

    To be fair, no one with less than 10 years experience under their belt is worth listening to. Experience counts.

    True in most cases. As a pianist I was a child prodigy, giving solo performances since age 11 (after starting learning at age 9) to high acclaim.

    Now my music production on the other hand? Most of what I made the first 10 years of producing music was a bit shit. Not just with (lack of) production skills either. A lot of my ideas ranged from mid to cringy shlock. 😂 Here's one of my better ideas which I remade.

    https://on.soundcloud.com/MFw2t8X78UVTcZaVhn

    "Scarlet" was one of my first productions. The difference 22 years made is night and day. Now if only I could improve my visual art from mediocre to spectacular. 😂

    The “ten years” thing wasn’t my idea, it was a theory put forth in the book by Malcolm Gladwell, called Outliers. He discovered that people who committed at least 10 years (or 10,000 hours) of study and practice were able to achieve mastery of that skill. Some take issue with his assessment, since every rule has exceptions.

    I don’t think that’s the only argument against his proposed rule. Counter-arguments have pointed out that mastery in his proposed case does not include less objectivity defined aspects of art, music, etc. where quantitative factors are much less important.

    Thank you for the thoughtful point. Indeed, the Gladwellian 10,000-hour paradigm, while illuminating in domains of high ergonic closure and objective metric stability, reveals its principal fragility when transposed to the richly underdetermined, semioticly turbulent realms of aesthetic and creative praxis—where performative excellence often hinges less on asymptotic practice accumulation than on rare idiomatic irruptions and contingent audience resonance. A most astute observation, and one that enriches the discussion considerably.

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