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My experiences since adding a Mac to my music making.

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  • Fruitbat1919Fruitbat1919

    @SirMcp said:
    If you don’t have the new Mpc….get it. You might even forget about your laptop because the stand alone experience is so good. Pair with an ipad or iphone and it’s extremely powerful.

    Its definetly on my possibilites list. I have watched Andy Mac presentations to the usual suspects and while he could make anything look good, it has peaked my interest, especially with the possibilities of those pads!

  • FizzyLizzy27FizzyLizzy27

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:
    I need to read through this whole thread, but I’ll suggest getting as much storage as you can on your Mac. I got a Mac Mini M2 and it’s very capable at handling plugins, but with only 256 GB and over half that taken by the OS + system days, you can install a DAW and a very short list of plugins.

    I hear a lot of people are fans of Ableton. I have Ableton Live Lite - does that give a pretty good feel for the full Ableton software?

    Not familiar with MPC - what is that in this context?

    This is an oldish thread now and really just a continuation of the thread I asked discussed getting a Mac. I now have two Macs. One I got with 256gb simply because it was the best deal on Argos they had at the time that gave me a years credit, so not taking any money from my usual music making fund. I then got a new one from the same place last week, but with 512gb this time. I use one on my desktop and one when sat on my sofa. I also have a 2tb ssd drive with the 256gb laptop.

    To be honest, I have 4 DAWs - Logic, Fender Studio, Ableton Live Standard, Reason and lots of VSTs - more than enough. I keep about 10 tracks on the internal drive and move the rest to the SSD over time, so storage issues are manageable.

    4 DAWs may seem overkill, but they all have things I enjoy using, keep me interested and engaged with the hobby.

    I use Ableton Standard, but I will no doubt get the full package in time. No idea how good the lite package is, as I only used it to receive more discount on my Standard version.

    The new MPC Live 3 is the latest MPC and it looks great fun in my opinion. As music making is one of my hobbies, Im always trying different approaches. Love blending hardware and software. The new MPC can send a decent track count to and from a laptop via USB-C, so it can send all its tracks to a DAW for track continuation, or use the laptop as an old fashioned sound rack! The MPC also is a decent central hub, with audio, midi, cv, and USB i/o

    I’d be very interested in your approach to managing memory on the 256 GB + SSD because I’ve got a similar setup and literally spend more time doing file management to squeeze out enough storage than I do music making. I can’t upgrade to macOS 26.2 right now because I’m struggling to find 7 gigs of something to delete. It’s really that 150+ GB of system data that’s killing me. I’ve offloaded all the pictures, messages, libraries, docs, etc. It really is almost all music apps but hardly any over 600 MB.

    I’m working on converting my windows 10 machine to come into the music production fold (maybe with audiogridder, maybe as an actual machine).

  • Fruitbat1919Fruitbat1919

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:
    I need to read through this whole thread, but I’ll suggest getting as much storage as you can on your Mac. I got a Mac Mini M2 and it’s very capable at handling plugins, but with only 256 GB and over half that taken by the OS + system days, you can install a DAW and a very short list of plugins.

    I hear a lot of people are fans of Ableton. I have Ableton Live Lite - does that give a pretty good feel for the full Ableton software?

    Not familiar with MPC - what is that in this context?

    This is an oldish thread now and really just a continuation of the thread I asked discussed getting a Mac. I now have two Macs. One I got with 256gb simply because it was the best deal on Argos they had at the time that gave me a years credit, so not taking any money from my usual music making fund. I then got a new one from the same place last week, but with 512gb this time. I use one on my desktop and one when sat on my sofa. I also have a 2tb ssd drive with the 256gb laptop.

    To be honest, I have 4 DAWs - Logic, Fender Studio, Ableton Live Standard, Reason and lots of VSTs - more than enough. I keep about 10 tracks on the internal drive and move the rest to the SSD over time, so storage issues are manageable.

    4 DAWs may seem overkill, but they all have things I enjoy using, keep me interested and engaged with the hobby.

    I use Ableton Standard, but I will no doubt get the full package in time. No idea how good the lite package is, as I only used it to receive more discount on my Standard version.

    The new MPC Live 3 is the latest MPC and it looks great fun in my opinion. As music making is one of my hobbies, Im always trying different approaches. Love blending hardware and software. The new MPC can send a decent track count to and from a laptop via USB-C, so it can send all its tracks to a DAW for track continuation, or use the laptop as an old fashioned sound rack! The MPC also is a decent central hub, with audio, midi, cv, and USB i/o

    I’d be very interested in your approach to managing memory on the 256 GB + SSD because I’ve got a similar setup and literally spend more time doing file management to squeeze out enough storage than I do music making. I can’t upgrade to macOS 26.2 right now because I’m struggling to find 7 gigs of something to delete. It’s really that 150+ GB of system data that’s killing me. I’ve offloaded all the pictures, messages, libraries, docs, etc. It really is almost all music apps but hardly any over 600 MB.

    I’m working on converting my windows 10 machine to come into the music production fold (maybe with audiogridder, maybe as an actual machine).

    My 256gb Mac is a push to be fair, but heres how ive used it:

    I set up the Mac with the external drive from day one.
    I dont use the Mac for anything else beyond music making.
    Ive used the external drive for as much of the program libaries as possible. Logic and Native Instrument fil3s were the easiest to move, but it can take some time and looking up on the web for advice on some.
    I only download the VST files needed - in my case the AU and VST 3 ones. If you download others like AAX files you may as well delete them. Do you really need the standalone versions?
    Delete as much off the main drive as you possibly can. This can take some web searches again to see what you remove on Macs - its not a lot from a fresh Mac!
    Be selective on what you load. Do you really need lots of loops etc?
    Many DAWs let you use or store your song files externally. But always back them up and only keep what you need on the main drive. Song files can get really big!
    File management is so important!

    Its much easier with more space. Thats why my next one was 512gb even though it cost me more. Next time im going for 1tb minimum whatever the cost....well if I have the money then!

  • Fruitbat1919Fruitbat1919
    edited January 19

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:

    @FizzyLizzy27 said:
    I need to read through this whole thread, but I’ll suggest getting as much storage as you can on your Mac. I got a Mac Mini M2 and it’s very capable at handling plugins, but with only 256 GB and over half that taken by the OS + system days, you can install a DAW and a very short list of plugins.

    I hear a lot of people are fans of Ableton. I have Ableton Live Lite - does that give a pretty good feel for the full Ableton software?

    Not familiar with MPC - what is that in this context?

    This is an oldish thread now and really just a continuation of the thread I asked discussed getting a Mac. I now have two Macs. One I got with 256gb simply because it was the best deal on Argos they had at the time that gave me a years credit, so not taking any money from my usual music making fund. I then got a new one from the same place last week, but with 512gb this time. I use one on my desktop and one when sat on my sofa. I also have a 2tb ssd drive with the 256gb laptop.

    To be honest, I have 4 DAWs - Logic, Fender Studio, Ableton Live Standard, Reason and lots of VSTs - more than enough. I keep about 10 tracks on the internal drive and move the rest to the SSD over time, so storage issues are manageable.

    4 DAWs may seem overkill, but they all have things I enjoy using, keep me interested and engaged with the hobby.

    I use Ableton Standard, but I will no doubt get the full package in time. No idea how good the lite package is, as I only used it to receive more discount on my Standard version.

    The new MPC Live 3 is the latest MPC and it looks great fun in my opinion. As music making is one of my hobbies, Im always trying different approaches. Love blending hardware and software. The new MPC can send a decent track count to and from a laptop via USB-C, so it can send all its tracks to a DAW for track continuation, or use the laptop as an old fashioned sound rack! The MPC also is a decent central hub, with audio, midi, cv, and USB i/o

    I’d be very interested in your approach to managing memory on the 256 GB + SSD because I’ve got a similar setup and literally spend more time doing file management to squeeze out enough storage than I do music making. I can’t upgrade to macOS 26.2 right now because I’m struggling to find 7 gigs of something to delete. It’s really that 150+ GB of system data that’s killing me. I’ve offloaded all the pictures, messages, libraries, docs, etc. It really is almost all music apps but hardly any over 600 MB.

    I’m working on converting my windows 10 machine to come into the music production fold (maybe with audiogridder, maybe as an actual machine).

    My 256gb Mac is a push to be fair, but heres how ive used it:

    I set up the Mac with the external drive from day one.
    I dont use the Mac for anything else beyond music making.
    Ive used the external drive for as much of the program libaries as possible. Logic and Native Instrument fil3s were the easiest to move, but it can take some time and looking up on the web for advice on some.
    I only download the VST files needed - in my case the AU and VST 3 ones. If you download others like AAX files you may as well delete them. Do you really need the standalone versions?
    Delete as much off the main drive as you possibly can. This can take some web searches again to see what you remove on Macs - its not a lot from a fresh Mac!
    Be selective on what you load. Do you really need lots of loops etc?
    Many DAWs let you use or store your song files externally. But always back them up and only keep what you need on the main drive. Song files can get really big!
    File management is so important!

    Its much easier with more space. Thats why my next one was 512gb even though it cost me more. Next time im going for 1tb minimum whatever the cost....well if I have the money then!

    Just to add, I just lost some space as I forgot to put stop auto downloads of OS, which took a fair bit of my remaining space....have to learn if I can get rid of it....apple dont like to make some things easy!

    Also, I have a 128gb SD card in a slot on one of my USB whatyoumacallits attached. I use this for storing all the files taken from my iPad.

  • Fruitbat1919Fruitbat1919

    Thought I would add a few notes here as Ive changed my set up again.

    After trying probably 10+ different ways of setting up my gear, i've finally settled on:

    M4 Mac, Quantum ES4, Fostex studio monitors, Novation LK4, Novation LP3, Novation LC XL3, Atom SQ, Faderport v2, and Korg Minilogue XD as my permanent set up.

    Combinations of M3 Mac, iPad Air, SP404mk2 and awaiting a mini keyboard for on the sofa.

    I have spare inputs to feed the sofa gear into the permanent setup if desired.

    Out of the 8 Daws Ive tried, I currently have 4 loaded onto my M4 Mac: Ableton Live, Fender Studio Pro, Reason Studio and Bitwig.

    Reason I use mostly as either a plug in rack or as an iPad like musical playground for com8ng up with ideas.

    Fender Studio Pro I use for making beats where I design the drums from scratch, as the Atom SQ makes creating beats a joy.

    Ableton is the easiest Daw to get around while arranging tracks in my limited experience, so I have lots of tracks on the go in it.

    Bitwig is a very recent new addition! I couldnt resist the offer price for owning another Daw and getting the full Daw for under half price! Only days in, but so far loving the modular nature of its instruments and the easy on the eye design.

    Ive ditched using Logic for now, as after the recent update its been playing up with some of my midi controllers. While I still think its a great deal for what you get, it just didnt gel as well with me at times.

    For now my fixed setup is pretty much done, but ideas for on the sofa still bouncing between a Push 3 for the M3 Mac or an MPC Live 3, or adding an MPC Sample for the iPad, or that portable Ableton Live thing that I keep forgetting the name of.....or......or......or

    What a great time to have music making as a hobby!

  • oldsynthguyoldsynthguy
    edited March 28

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    that portable Ableton Live thing that I keep forgetting the name of.....or......or......or

    A Move? I quite fancy one of those too.

    I don't think you can beat Macs these days. I'm going to order an Air M5 15" next week for work to replace my ageing Intel 16". I usually use Macbook Pro's, but the new Air's are so powerful now, I can't justify the extra cost, and I want to grab one before the chip/RAM/Iran war stuff starts making things hard to come by. Plus my desktop Mini M1 started acting very weird yesterday, so I could find myself without a work machine pretty soon...

    The Push 3 is still doing its job well - I love playing the pads in MPE mode, it makes it a very expressive instrument in its own right, and the audio interface for guitar is really handy - everything in one box.

    Have to say I am tempted by a Move though - still £419, and getting a lot of updates...

  • Fruitbat1919Fruitbat1919

    @oldsynthguy said:

    @Fruitbat1919 said:
    that portable Ableton Live thing that I keep forgetting the name of.....or......or......or

    A Move? I quite fancy one of those too.

    I don't think you can beat Macs these days. I'm going to order an Air M5 15" next week for work to replace my ageing Intel 16". I usually use Macbook Pro's, but the new Air's are so powerful now, I can't justify the extra cost, and I want to grab one before the chip/RAM/Iran war stuff starts making things hard to come by. Plus my desktop Mini M1 started acting very weird yesterday, so I could find myself without a work machine pretty soon...

    The Push 3 is still doing its job well - I love playing the pads in MPE mode, it makes it a very expressive instrument in its own right, and the audio interface for guitar is really handy - everything in one box.

    Have to say I am tempted by a Move though - still £419, and getting a lot of updates...

    Yeah....the Move. As you say, it seems that Ableton are still giving it love and if they ever get bored with it, some home brew community love seems to be going its way.

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