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That is indeed an important concern. However, it is hardly limited to artists. People across every sector of the economy will lose jobs, and are already losing jobs. And this is much different complaint than one that claims AI music will always lack some element of humanity.
I like your take on this - just keep making music and living a real life regardless.
But one thing is - I think everyone has been watching AI generated videos and hearing AI generated music and are not aware of it. The music I'm hearing is not boring (well - some of it is). I've been surprised at how well done it is. I will not pay for it if I have a choice. I want to support real artists.
Maybe there’s something to the fact that, as of now, AI art is mostly contained to digital art. I’m sure there are actual “paintings” done by AI via robotics, but I can’t imagine an AI thinking in layers artistically.
One of my favorite artists is Adolph Gottlieb. Here’s my favorite piece.
This Mark Rothko one might be my all time favorite.
The picture really doesn’t do that one justice.
They’re both on display at an art museum in my city. I’ve sat and looked at both for many hours over my lifetime. It’s art you really have to experience and you can tell they’re painted one stroke at a time. It’s hard to think of AI being able to strike those feelings from such simple imagery generative. There’s no putting emotion on canvas so much with AI - it’s more a printer or scanning tv for what I can tell. Generating the image line by line by predicting what comes next produces a different piece than using a dozen types of pain mixed with egg yolks and ketchup to get the exact glossy texture in very specific lighting.
This art is fantastic! I love Abstract Art and Modern Art.
I'm working on improving my drawing skills myself and have stopped using ProCreate for the practice (at least for the time being). I'm 100% using ballpoint pen on printer paper. ❤️
I’m not quite sure what “glitchy experimental” means in terms of the final audio product, but you could certainly try to describe/prompt what you want and see what you get. Try Suno.ai and/or Udio.
some also have a remix feature where you can select a generated track, change the prompt to something completely different and then apply a percentage weighting to the audio and regenerate it, often with experimental results... but then... is it "the AI" being 'clever' (not really in any case) or the user? O_o heh
You get back whatever you put in when it comes to generative stuff. The more you individualize your prompts, the more unique the output.
I’m a big fan of fractal art, which isn’t quite generative but instead algorithm driven visualizations of discrete dynamical systems. So for fractal art deep zooms like the Mandelbrot Set, you set boundaries on a graph, specify granular you want your calcs to get, set color assignments, and display an image based on those calcs. Then you take that output and use it to determine the calcs for the next frame of the image based on the same algorithm. It’s random and chaotic, but it’s incredibly user driven to get artistic outputs.
Example of a Mandelbrot deep zoom. You only have to watch a few seconds to get the gist (but watch the full 2 hours to get hypnotized)
With current image models it is closer to that but not really with the highly overtrained music models currently released. Even with image models you get a lot further by reprocessing outputs via image to image workflows.
Recently, I have noticed really really bad prompted AI music on some YouTube commercials.
The music is soft jazz - a quartet with a solo flute “improvising” on top of a smooth groove. Problem is that the flute plays in another scale than the rest of the band. It sounds sooo awful but it goes on and on. Like if they took the flute track from a whole other track.
If it was a real band/musicians the flute player would have recognised it after a bar or two…or would immediately get fired.
It would certainly not get released.
It is like we are already in a phase where the algorithms not only play the prompted music, but also MAKES the initial prompt.
In this example with really unmusical results.
Or - the people who prompted it has absolutely no musical ear, quality control, or they don’t give a shit 🥳 They certainly got my attention - maybe that’s the goal ( can’t remember what they tried to sell though…)
I’ll try to record it next time it occurs.
You will be amazed
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It was pretty unsettling when I googled something a little while back - “do sharks chew on underwater internet lines”. Google had its Gemini summary up top which cited an AI video of a shark chewing a cable. It’s to the point of being a bs feedback loop of AI generating answers based on AI.
Turns out sharks do chew on cables now and then. But nonetheless, the cyclical AI feedback loop is concerning.
This is the meme that got me googling shark stuff:
Haha exactly
Excellent 👍
Them Russians know how to train sharks well.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
I tried out Suno - we don’t have anything to fear at this stage I am sure. One thing is for sure - AI will never be able to put real soul into music - because it hasn’t got one….. maybe that’s a bit old fashioned… here comes the creep.
Certainty can be a dangerous thing. In fact, one of the world's largest religions has a doctrine of "no-soul". Well, so you may be right that AI will never put soul into music. But wrong that human beings do:
https://www.lionsroar.com/do-buddhists-believe-in-a-soul/
Did you subscribe and try the advanced features 'weirdness' and 'style influence' weighting while remixing? But yah pretty mundane yet maybe sampleable results on the free tier.
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“ Yet Buddhism does say we have an essential nature that transcends conditioned or material existence. In the Mahayana, this is called buddhanature, the open expanse of awakeness in which all good qualities reside.”
I’d say that counts as soul adjacent at the least.
No I didn’t feel compelled to subscribe given what was being churned out. If anything it put me off 🙁