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Sound design discussion

What do you think sound design means? Artists you think use sound design well?
What got you into sound design?

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  • edited January 31

    @Drrabbitfoot said:
    What do you think sound design means?

    Creating sound for use in something. In my case in musical tracks. Others may use it for sound fx, film score or a million other uses.

    Artists you think use sound design well?
    So many to choose from.
    Depeche mode for their early ventures into sampling.
    Anthony Martinelli for his synth sounds.
    The sound design by Japan and producers on Tin Drum album.
    Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk and Jarre for their use of sound.

    What got you into sound design?

    Possibly early synth bands like Tubeway Army and others that made me realise I didnt have to play piano well to make music on a synth.
    My mum that bought me my first mono synth while I was still at school.

  • That’s awesome, very much grats to her for starting you on your path.

  • Digging a bit deeper, "Sound Design" for a project ( theater, film, TV , or music for that matter ) involves the process of understanding the piece, how it fits together, what it is trying to communicate, how it is tying to communicate etc to best select a palette of sounds to create an audio 'world' which enhances the whole experience.

    In film, TV, and theater there is an established language of sound to describe how an element operates in the production. For instance 'diegetic sound' is sound that comes from the world of the film. The sources of the sound are on screen and audible to the charters in the film. Obviously non-diegetic sound is audio that is not sourced on-screen, or even present in the world of the film ( etc the film's score ... usually ).

    The Sound Designer is responsible for creating the framework for how these elements will be created and how they will be used. They may or may not actually engineer the elements ( although usually they have a big hand in it! ).

    I don't see any reason why the process wouldn't apply to music, although the eventuality of it is that the "Sound Design" of a musical piece is usually emergent from the work of the artist and producer.

    There's lots of books about the art and craft of Sound Design. The original Star Wars film is the poster child although IMO they did some amazing work in early film ( 1930-1960) when actually executing sound for film was very difficult ( pre- multitrack, pre mixers, pre-dolby, pre just about everything we take for granted!).

    These days the rock stars of Sound Design are people like

    Ben Burtt, Randy Thom, Gary Rydstrom, Walter Murch, but there's dozens more of course.

    I could go on but won't....

  • I’m not one of those “Stanley was greater than that Shakespeare clown” guys, but I really do think that Kubrick’s use of sound design has always been phenomenal, but overlooked.

  • @JeffChasteen said:
    I’m not one of those “Stanley was greater than that Shakespeare clown” guys, but I really do think that Kubrick’s use of sound design has always been phenomenal, but overlooked.

    When I think of sound design in movies, I usually think of David Lynch's "Eraserhead".

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @JeffChasteen said:
    I’m not one of those “Stanley was greater than that Shakespeare clown” guys, but I really do think that Kubrick’s use of sound design has always been phenomenal, but overlooked.

    When I think of sound design in movies, I usually think of David Lynch's "Eraserhead".

    Absolutely, my friend!

  • This topic and its far and wide scope is absolutely fascinating from the Gaffers to the composers, and down to the minute knob twiddlers. On one hand you’re making rain against a window, on the other turning that sound into a bass or hi hats

  • First person that popped in my head was Tom Morello, guitarist from Rage Against the Machine. I don’t know if that fits a rigid definition but the guy’s philosophy is “crank every pedal setting like you’re testing it at guitar center for the first time, install a kill switch on the guitar, and scrap a wrench on it to sound like hip-hop.”

  • Read the afterward in William Burroughs' Ticket that Exploded. Storm the Reality studio.

  • @FizzyLizzy27 i always thought it was funny that Rage, in their first albums liner notes stated, something to the effect of, no electronics were used in the making of this album. Then comes Filter, and on their first album, it stated something like all the effects were used. I always thought I’d witnessed a beef lol.

  • Speaking of Burroughs, his album with Disposable Heroes of HipHoprisy albums was insanely good, I’ll read the afterward

  • @Drrabbitfoot said:
    @FizzyLizzy27 i always thought it was funny that Rage, in their first albums liner notes stated, something to the effect of, no electronics were used in the making of this album. Then comes Filter, and on their first album, it stated something like all the effects were used. I always thought I’d witnessed a beef lol.

    "All sounds made by guitar, bass, drums and vocals"

    Here’s Tom Morello’s video talking about guitar sound design. One of the most influential videos I saw when learning guitar early. Shows how much creativity you can pull from a guitar.

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