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ZENOLOGY GX Synthesizer by Roland Corporation (Released on iOS)

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  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @MatthewAtZenbeats said:

    @DMfan said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I was under the impression it would be a hybrid pricing model, where you can pay an exorbitant one-time fee, or sub to it. I'd personally prefer that since I can sub for a month first to see if Zenology will fit my workflow before committing to a one time fee.

    Yes, it will be available on iOS both as a sub and a lifetime purchase. This is what @MatthewAtZenbeats said during NAMM.

    /DMfan🇸🇪

    Confirmed, but also know there will be an extended trial period when it launches so everyone will be able to check out the full feature set for free as well

    He liiives! I forgot there'd be a free trial. How much longer would you say before the release, mate?

    No date set yet, but I'll update this thread with that info once I am able.

  • @MatthewAtZenbeats said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @MatthewAtZenbeats said:

    @DMfan said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I was under the impression it would be a hybrid pricing model, where you can pay an exorbitant one-time fee, or sub to it. I'd personally prefer that since I can sub for a month first to see if Zenology will fit my workflow before committing to a one time fee.

    Yes, it will be available on iOS both as a sub and a lifetime purchase. This is what @MatthewAtZenbeats said during NAMM.

    /DMfan🇸🇪

    Confirmed, but also know there will be an extended trial period when it launches so everyone will be able to check out the full feature set for free as well

    He liiives! I forgot there'd be a free trial. How much longer would you say before the release, mate?

    No date set yet, but I'll update this thread with that info once I am able.

    Thanks mate sounds good. :)

  • He’s a crafty one. He didn’t.

  • @MatthewAtZenbeats said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @MatthewAtZenbeats said:

    @DMfan said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I was under the impression it would be a hybrid pricing model, where you can pay an exorbitant one-time fee, or sub to it. I'd personally prefer that since I can sub for a month first to see if Zenology will fit my workflow before committing to a one time fee.

    Yes, it will be available on iOS both as a sub and a lifetime purchase. This is what @MatthewAtZenbeats said during NAMM.

    /DMfan🇸🇪

    Confirmed, but also know there will be an extended trial period when it launches so everyone will be able to check out the full feature set for free as well

    He liiives! I forgot there'd be a free trial. How much longer would you say before the release, mate?

    No date set yet, but I'll update this thread with that info once I am able.

    +1 thank you!

  • @MatthewAtZenbeats said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @MatthewAtZenbeats said:

    @DMfan said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:
    I was under the impression it would be a hybrid pricing model, where you can pay an exorbitant one-time fee, or sub to it. I'd personally prefer that since I can sub for a month first to see if Zenology will fit my workflow before committing to a one time fee.

    Yes, it will be available on iOS both as a sub and a lifetime purchase. This is what @MatthewAtZenbeats said during NAMM.

    /DMfan🇸🇪

    Confirmed, but also know there will be an extended trial period when it launches so everyone will be able to check out the full feature set for free as well

    He liiives! I forgot there'd be a free trial. How much longer would you say before the release, mate?

    No date set yet, but I'll update this thread with that info once I am able.

    Fantastic. Date and pricing if you can.

  • Foregone conclusion that this thing will be a massive hit for Roland

  • In the meantime, I am staying tuned.

  • What’s the most folks are prepared to pay as a one time hit?

  • @cyberheater said:
    What’s the most folks are prepared to pay as a one time hit?

    The most I'd pay is $99 one time fee. Any more expensive, and I'd subscribe temporarily instead.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @cyberheater said:
    What’s the most folks are prepared to pay as a one time hit?

    The most I'd pay is $99 one time fee. Any more expensive, and I'd subscribe temporarily instead.

    Yeah. Mine would be around that too.

  • @cyberheater said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @cyberheater said:
    What’s the most folks are prepared to pay as a one time hit?

    The most I'd pay is $99 one time fee. Any more expensive, and I'd subscribe temporarily instead.

    Yeah. Mine would be around that too.

    Exactly. And $99 would be definitely worth it for me personally. Given the shedload of sounds, modulation capabilities, etc from what I've seen so far, it'd fit neatly into my Ambient workflow. I could save drones as AUM presets and play them into Koala Sampler to loop endlessly using crossfade loops, sample in little improvised melodies and loop those asynchronously, and other creative sparks and ideas floating around in my noggin. So many possibilities with this mega synth/rompler thingamabob.

    It's like with Auxy Studio. I'm normally opposed to subscription pricing, but I use Auxy Studio on my iPhone pretty much all the time when I'm away from my iPad (mostly for beat-based compositions), so the subscription pricing is very fair for how much I use the damn thing. If Matthew and team charge a full $200 one time fee for Zenology GX, I'll subscribe instead once the free trial period is up. 😂 I'm not about to drop that kind of money all at once.

  • 50$ would probably be my top

  • $30 for Ipad only

  • I won’t know until after the testing/trial period. For me, it’s a question of overlap. I have lots of Roland gear, so if Zenology GX just mostly replicates what I have, then it won’t be necessary for me. Also how easy will it be to fit into my workflow? Maybe that increases my productivity and is worth having. Fingers crossed! I want to like it.

  • I find that forking out for a new synth app that is all exciting is all very well, but then another all exciting synth comes out and I buy it, it keeps me busy for a while and I may use it in a project, then another even more exciting app comes out and the previous purchases get left on the shelf hardly used, so for me £30 is my limit. I would imagine GS Synth will be quite expensive to only use occasionally, even if my intentions were to use it more often.
    Mike

  • This was announced almost a month ago. I would have thought it would have been out by now.

  • No. Roland is stuck in some old sadistic marketing ethos designed to drive customers mad with anticipation via extended wait times to maximize initial sales figures. It sucks but it likely works more than it doesn’t. Personally I am already overwhelmed with other apps and hope there is a couple/few months before this is released. This is my strategy to counter their marketing team’s psychological warfare. 🙄

  • @Slam_Cut
    The thought of carrying around the best Roland hardware emulations from their vast array of synths and romplers on your iPad is quite salivating. It would be epic.

  • edited February 19

    @cyberheater said:
    The thought of carrying around the best Roland hardware emulations from their vast array of synths and romplers on your iPad is quite salivating. It would be epic.

    Not all Roland HW emulations are running on this engine ... lot of them use different engine .. of course this one is pretty good too but do not except too much from it.. half of Boutiques series is using different engine, entire Aira series was different engine too ..

  • @dendy said:

    @cyberheater said:
    The thought of carrying around the best Roland hardware emulations from their vast array of synths and romplers on your iPad is quite salivating. It would be epic.

    Not all Roland HW emulations are running on this engine ... lot of them use different engine .. of course this one is pretty good too but do not except too much from it.. half of Boutiques series is using different engine, entire Aira series was different engine too ..

    Yes I know this is using Zencore rather than ACB but it’s still very tasty.

  • @cyberheater said:

    @dendy said:

    @cyberheater said:
    The thought of carrying around the best Roland hardware emulations from their vast array of synths and romplers on your iPad is quite salivating. It would be epic.

    Not all Roland HW emulations are running on this engine ... lot of them use different engine .. of course this one is pretty good too but do not except too much from it.. half of Boutiques series is using different engine, entire Aira series was different engine too ..

    Yes I know this is using Zencore rather than ACB but it’s still very tasty.

    No doubt about that, Zencore is great too ..

  • @cyberheater said:
    @Slam_Cut
    The thought of carrying around the best Roland hardware emulations from their vast array of synths and romplers on your iPad is quite salivating. It would be epic.

    Indeed! I love the development of iOS synths from both Korg and Roland, and I super love it when people like @analog_matt make versions of old synths but add new features instead of slavish emulations. We have so many cheap synths on iOS that I really feel guilty for not spending the well deserved time using the apps that have been created. Hopefully they will be around for many years, because it will take me some time to really use them all. Until then I count on other forum members to really use these synths and provide feedback to devs to make them even better. Awesome little scene that is going on here.

  • 😎

    /DMfan🇸🇪

  • @DMfan said:

    😎

    /DMfan🇸🇪

    LOL 😂

  • edited February 27

    /DMfan🇸🇪

  • Nearly March. Come on Roland.

  • The longer the release gets postponed the higher the expectations will grow (or interest in the product will cool down)...
    ...at this point I'm expecting near flawless release with zero glitches when it comes to AUv3 automation, Session Recall and Multi-Instance usage etc. :sunglasses:

  • @Samu said:
    ...at this point I'm expecting near flawless release with zero glitches when it comes to AUv3 automation, Session Recall and Multi-Instance usage etc. :sunglasses:

    😳😊😁😂🤣🤪

  • @Samu said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @mjm1138 said:

    @cyberheater said:
    AU support confirmed. Great news.

    AU support is being worked on for a future version, which is not quite the same thing. Sounds to me like we should not expect an AUv3 plugin from the soon-to-ship temporarily free version.

    That's a pity, but I intend to have fun with Zenology GX regardless. My plan was to record it directly into Koala Sampler within AUM for Ambient fodder. It appears I'll be stuck doing the screen recording method instead lol.

    That could be a bit tricky if it doesn’t have AUv3 support and adding IAA in 2026 would be a move in the wrong direction…

    Drumlad and DM2 just did an update adding iaa and not auv3.
    Its the reason I am not interested.

  • edited March 4

    @Meek3 said:

    @Samu said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @mjm1138 said:

    @cyberheater said:
    AU support confirmed. Great news.

    AU support is being worked on for a future version, which is not quite the same thing. Sounds to me like we should not expect an AUv3 plugin from the soon-to-ship temporarily free version.

    That's a pity, but I intend to have fun with Zenology GX regardless. My plan was to record it directly into Koala Sampler within AUM for Ambient fodder. It appears I'll be stuck doing the screen recording method instead lol.

    That could be a bit tricky if it doesn’t have AUv3 support and adding IAA in 2026 would be a move in the wrong direction…

    Drumlad and DM2 just did an update adding iaa and not auv3.
    Its the reason I am not interested.

    To be fair, DM2 update was to fix a broken IAA implementation. But yeah, I think the whole reason DM10 exists is the inherent difficulty of porting DM1/DM2 to include an AUv3 plugin. So it makes me nervous if a new app hits the store and AUv3 is on the "todo" list. It's very possible however, that I read too much into their roadmap. Hopefully it's been designed as an AUv3 from the ground up and there are just some unit tests to clean up before the plugin is ready ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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