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Controlling Klevgrand OneShot

Just wondering in the random survey question... What are you using to control OneShot. It is, of course, awesome sounding, but with so many notes/options in each kit - What are you using to control/trigger OneShot?

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  • Keystep 37 and a midi pad controller, if you trim around some of the extras you can fit most of the notes into a 16 pad grid if you wish.

  • edited March 8

    Helium with some midi files.

    These are the midi beats I use but there is plenty of others on the web. https://ugritone.com/collections/midipacks

    These are free https://www.jjdoge.com/groove-packs/

    https://groovemonkee.com/pages/beat-farm-free-midi-beats

    This is how I use them.

  • Drambo

    And I’m still learning the ins and outs, but Augmatic GRE

  • I usually use one of the Lumbeat apps or occasionally Rozeta. I’m just now exploring using MIDI drum loops so the above links are useful. Thank you @ecou !

  • OCTACHRON, lattice, aGRE, autofills, prism

  • @MatthewKay said:
    I usually use one of the Lumbeat apps or occasionally Rozeta. I’m just now exploring using MIDI drum loops so the above links are useful. Thank you @ecou !

    You are welcomed. They are played by a real drummer so you get a better groove.

  • DrumComputer through MFXConvert into OneShot. Or X0X or Octachron or PopDrummer…

  • edited March 9

    I removed my 16 track Euclidean ( with insane loopy controller ) Oneshot samples in Drambo samplers.

    The loopy controller or Drambo, just wernt saving a million mappings upon project launch ( its done it before )

    Turns out all I need is my own arms and drum pads.

    I still just sample ( and will sample any drum machine really ) thats non squelchy.

    Cant beat a drambo looking track with EQ, shapers etc.

    Yes. I were using 16 Fac punchlabs and creating some new type of synthesis via tablet heat but find shaper module has enough ( realtime goodness ) to give things essential beef.

    Only just starting with ipad again though ( am looking for ease of use generators )

  • wimwim
    edited March 9

    @sigma79 said:
    Yes. I were using 16 Fac punchlabs and creating some new type of synthesis via tablet heat but find shaper module has enough ( realtime goodness ) to give things essential beef.

    Ahh. The smell of a good steak grilling on a super heated iPad. There's just nothing like it.
    I can't wait for summer.

  • @boberto said:
    Just wondering in the random survey question... What are you using to control OneShot. It is, of course, awesome sounding, but with so many notes/options in each kit - What are you using to control/trigger OneShot?

    Launchpad X and Loopy Pro midi loops capturing the Launchpad’s midi

  • edited March 9

    @wim said:

    @sigma79 said:
    Yes. I were using 16 Fac punchlabs and creating some new type of synthesis via tablet heat but find shaper module has enough ( realtime goodness ) to give things essential beef.

    Ahh. The smell of a good steak grilling on a super heated iPad. There's just nothing like it.
    I can't wait for summer.

    Lol.

    You funny.

    Roll on summer.

  • Mostly Logic’s session drummers. Occasionally Octachron and Drum Computer, and I just started messing with Augmatic GRE through OneShot.

  • @boberto said:
    Just wondering in the random survey question... What are you using to control OneShot. It is, of course, awesome sounding, but with so many notes/options in each kit - What are you using to control/trigger OneShot?

    There's no need in general, I think, to have a sequencer with as many lanes as there are drums in a OneShot kit. If you want to trigger more sounds and the sequencer doesn't send enough triggers, you can always use several instances. So just use any sequencer app that you click with. Then it's mainly going to be down to how much work you want to do yourself, and how much work you prefer the app to do for you.

    For drums, I like something that is fun to jam with and gives musical results, but also gives me some control via tweaking. Augmatic GRE is my current preference, and its 6 outputs are enough for me.

  • edited March 9

    Didnt want to upload test as I found my pad controller input vs Euclidean input were double midi sound ( via pads )

    Then found all the loopy control wernt state saving in Drambo.

    I might remake as Im probably going to have 16 static samplers on a track basis as a template ( and even for electronic now ) Only apps like Battalion dont need sampling hits ( but that dosent have pattern trigger midi )

    How it works.

    Obviously the loopy controller is for controlling Euclidean parameters etc per track.

    Im able to mute ( by turning off the euclidean modules ) on a track basis. Which means not actually muting sound. So can blend with a usual pad controller.

    You can stream record all midi, including euclidean, pad input plus the mute state ( will record as gaps )

    Gets sort of better at the end of vid but start shows ultimate midi lol.

    I need to check out GRE.

    Theres probably functions ( more than standard euclidean ) So sounding different with its control/blended output )

    If not I just use this but without a master controller for now.

    These are the mute buttons vua bluetooth on another ipad ( surface builder )

    So its this as a controller ( plus drum pads to blend or switch )

    Is is it worth trying to state save and keep ?

  • Its probably worth it but it dosent save. Loopy has done it before ( and its a lot of midi )

    I mean I can blend pads with Euclidean.

    Plus just jam and get synth recordings down, without even have to program a single drum ( until song complete ) but the drum pattern type will affect the synth patches.

    Does GRE blended make it sound less Euclidean. Is this the gyst of app ?

    Otherwise I may as well just keep 16 Euclidean on tracks.

    You are right.

    When I hear less drum tracks, it sounds all right.

    When it comes to pad input yourself, its nice to have a full kit.

  • edited March 9

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  • @sigma79 - Loopy Pro doesn't save the state of controls that send MIDI because it has no way of knowing what state the app or hardware the MIDI is going to will be in when the session loads.

    There is a workaround for this by adding "dummy" controls that don't send MIDI and linking the MIDI controls to them. I don't want to derail this thread with that topic though. You may want to start a separate thread in the Loopy Pro section if you want to look into that further.

  • edited March 9

    @wim said:
    @sigma79 - Loopy Pro doesn't save the state of controls that send MIDI because it has no way of knowing what state the app or hardware the MIDI is going to will be in when the session loads.

    There is a workaround for this by adding "dummy" controls that don't send MIDI and linking the MIDI controls to them. I don't want to derail this thread with that topic though. You may want to start a separate thread in the Loopy Pro section if you want to look into that further.

    Not state save position but all loopy mappings out to Drambo modules. All mappings then dont move Drambo modules on reloading Drambo project. So seemingly unmapped.

    but I think you might have made me realise theres another way of mapping in loopy.

    Theres a way that you give midi command as if you wanted to control loopy.

    Then theres a way to give midi if you want to send out midi to other apps.

    I chose the latter but think you might have to give the loopy midi commands to the former way.

    Otherwise if not.

    This happened before after loads of work.

    Its probably worth me keeping though and making work.

    Il sort it later to see if its still not saving.

    Do you think its the way im giving midi commands to loopy ?

  • wimwim
    edited March 9

    @sigma79 said:

    @wim said:
    @sigma79 - Loopy Pro doesn't save the state of controls that send MIDI because it has no way of knowing what state the app or hardware the MIDI is going to will be in when the session loads.

    There is a workaround for this by adding "dummy" controls that don't send MIDI and linking the MIDI controls to them. I don't want to derail this thread with that topic though. You may want to start a separate thread in the Loopy Pro section if you want to look into that further.

    Not state save position but all loopy mappings out to Drambo modules. All mappings then dont move Drambo modules on reloading Drambo project. So seemingly unmapped.

    but I think you might have made me realise theres another way of mapping in loopy.

    Theres a way that you give midi command as if you wanted to control loopy.

    Then theres a way to give midi if you want to send out midi to other apps.

    I chose the latter but think you might have to give the loopy midi commands to the former way.

    Otherwise if not.

    This happened before after loads of work.

    Its probably worth me keeping though and making work.

    Il sort it later to see if its still not saving.

    Do you think its the way im giving midi commands to loopy ?

    I think it will take more than just one message to discuss and sort through your questions. I don't want to derail this thread by getting further into it here.

  • @wim said:

    @sigma79 said:

    @wim said:
    @sigma79 - Loopy Pro doesn't save the state of controls that send MIDI because it has no way of knowing what state the app or hardware the MIDI is going to will be in when the session loads.

    There is a workaround for this by adding "dummy" controls that don't send MIDI and linking the MIDI controls to them. I don't want to derail this thread with that topic though. You may want to start a separate thread in the Loopy Pro section if you want to look into that further.

    Not state save position but all loopy mappings out to Drambo modules. All mappings then dont move Drambo modules on reloading Drambo project. So seemingly unmapped.

    but I think you might have made me realise theres another way of mapping in loopy.

    Theres a way that you give midi command as if you wanted to control loopy.

    Then theres a way to give midi if you want to send out midi to other apps.

    I chose the latter but think you might have to give the loopy midi commands to the former way.

    Otherwise if not.

    This happened before after loads of work.

    Its probably worth me keeping though and making work.

    Il sort it later to see if its still not saving.

    Do you think its the way im giving midi commands to loopy ?

    I think it will take more than just one message to discuss and sort through your questions. I don't want to derail this thread by getting further into it here.

    Ok.

    But the controller to control drums is kinda cool though ?

  • @sigma79 said:
    But the controller to control drums is kinda cool though ?

    Yep. Very cool. 👍🏼

  • Controlling Oneshot samples.

    16 track custom Euclidean controller/FX/Retriggers/Mute Euclideans/Pad controller input/blend ( Streamed to midi recording ) Not bad for a bit of fun.

    My drum ipad can probably afford to just leave all this level of control as a template.

    Although Id probably just use pad input plus gated triggers.

  • edited March 10

    The gated retrigger on already euclidean at 3.39 sounds good.

    The drums also sound like a synth obviously because of using sends.

    If you check from 3.30 onwards.

    You can then also see it stream record to midi. Then how quick you can mute 16 euclideans to then add a bit of additional pad recording ( although you can play and record both at same time )

  • This is all crazy, I just use beat scholar as a sequencer...but lately I've just been using Battalion.

  • @geremy said:
    This is all crazy, I just use beat scholar as a sequencer...but lately I've just been using Battalion.

    Beat Scholar is so dope. 😎
    I ignored it for so long, then picked it up for no real reason one day. It was so different from what I was expecting based on the name.

    I kinda wish I could plunk around with it on my iPhone too though.

  • edited March 11

    I added Octachron to the mix.

    This live jam thing is kinda fun.

    Sort of dub style jungle lol.

    But its just a template for input.

    You got now.

    16 track Euclidean input. 16 track Octatron input. A hardware pad input.

    All blendable or switch on and off with buttons.

    Through sends.

    Recordable to Drambo main.

    Anyway.

    Octratron should be good for randomisation ( which will also build to Drambo main )

    Octratron made sense ( 16 tracks if needed )

    Even playbeat is just obscure genre midi ( its not audio )

    Need a different drumkit though now.

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