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Invert/scaler midi value plugin to use with DAWS that are not LP

BoxKnobBoxKnob
edited April 15 in Loopy Pro

Hi im looking for a way to scale value 127-0 to 0-127, for example making crosffades. Like in LP.
I miss this in cubasis

Any tips?

Comments

  • filo01filo01

    Do you have Mozaic? This won't be hard to script.

  • BoxKnobBoxKnob

    No i took a look at it now and im not very good at programming..
    I take a look what other users posted there thanks

  • BoxKnobBoxKnob

    Strange no one has come up with one. Its possible in drambo, aum and loopy pro though
    So i stick with them until i find a auv2 plugin. Its nice to be able to crossfade when making music

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @BoxKnob : you might want to change the title of your post to indicate that it is about Cubasis.

  • wimwim

    Cubasis has an issue with MIDI Plugins and anything other than notes. The original MIDI leaks through, combining with the altered midi and producing screwed up results. Oddly, the MIDI gets recorded and plays back properly, but when playing it's screwed up.

    No AUv3 plugin is going to help with that, at least for live playing.

  • GavinskiGavinski

    @wim said:
    Cubasis has an issue with MIDI Plugins and anything other than notes. The original MIDI leaks through, combining with the altered midi and producing screwed up results. Oddly, the MIDI gets recorded and plays back properly, but when playing it's screwed up.

    No AUv3 plugin is going to help with that, at least for live playing.

    That's really a disgrace. What's prevented them fixing that?

  • ecouecou

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:
    Cubasis has an issue with MIDI Plugins and anything other than notes. The original MIDI leaks through, combining with the altered midi and producing screwed up results. Oddly, the MIDI gets recorded and plays back properly, but when playing it's screwed up.

    No AUv3 plugin is going to help with that, at least for live playing.

    That's really a disgrace. What's prevented them fixing that?

    Because I am the only one telling them.

  • wimwim

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:
    Cubasis has an issue with MIDI Plugins and anything other than notes. The original MIDI leaks through, combining with the altered midi and producing screwed up results. Oddly, the MIDI gets recorded and plays back properly, but when playing it's screwed up.

    No AUv3 plugin is going to help with that, at least for live playing.

    That's really a disgrace. What's prevented them fixing that?

    I hadn't heard that it was a problem until just a few days ago. But maybe @ecou has been mentioning it longer than that.

  • rs2000rs2000

    @LFS Worth checking, I think 😊

  • ecouecou

    @wim said:

    @Gavinski said:

    @wim said:
    Cubasis has an issue with MIDI Plugins and anything other than notes. The original MIDI leaks through, combining with the altered midi and producing screwed up results. Oddly, the MIDI gets recorded and plays back properly, but when playing it's screwed up.

    No AUv3 plugin is going to help with that, at least for live playing.

    That's really a disgrace. What's prevented them fixing that?

    I hadn't heard that it was a problem until just a few days ago. But maybe @ecou has been mentioning it longer than that.

    I have found work around but it would be nice if it worked the intended way.

  • BoxKnobBoxKnob

    @espiegel123 said:
    @BoxKnob : you might want to change the title of your post to indicate that it is about Cubasis.

    I try to do that sorry first post

    @wim said:
    Cubasis has an issue with MIDI Plugins and anything other than notes. The original MIDI leaks through, combining with the altered midi and producing screwed up results. Oddly, the MIDI gets recorded and plays back properly, but when playing it's screwed up.

    No AUv3 plugin is going to help with that, at least for live playing.

    Damn! So the only DAW left if i want to record automation from a controller is logic? Well yeah and LP

    So i have to learn LP then. I got a ipad as a portable solution and digital hub for my hardware (a modular and drummachines). I got a motu ultralight mk5 to go with it. LP is very much to learn for this. Yes i like to do some simple arengments from the soundfiles i record in AUM.

    There is so much in logic i have no use for and its very expensive now.

    Ok thanks for this i wont waste my money on cubasis then.

  • wimwim

    @BoxKnob said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    @BoxKnob : you might want to change the title of your post to indicate that it is about Cubasis.

    I try to do that sorry first post

    @wim said:
    Cubasis has an issue with MIDI Plugins and anything other than notes. The original MIDI leaks through, combining with the altered midi and producing screwed up results. Oddly, the MIDI gets recorded and plays back properly, but when playing it's screwed up.

    No AUv3 plugin is going to help with that, at least for live playing.

    Damn! So the only DAW left if i want to record automation from a controller is logic? Well yeah and LP

    Well, to clarify, if we're talking about MIDI, then the automation from the controller will record and play back fine. It'll just sound screwy when you play it live while recording.

    So i have to learn LP then. I got a ipad as a portable solution and digital hub for my hardware (a modular and drummachines). I got a motu ultralight mk5 to go with it. LP is very much to learn for this. Yes i like to do some simple arengments from the soundfiles i record in AUM.

    You could take a look at Audio Evolution Mobile. It has a kind of weird workflow, but it's a very solid DAW.

  • BoxKnobBoxKnob
    edited April 15

    @wim said:

    @BoxKnob said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    @BoxKnob : you might want to change the title of your post to indicate that it is about Cubasis.

    I try to do that sorry first post

    @wim said:
    Cubasis has an issue with MIDI Plugins and anything other than notes. The original MIDI leaks through, combining with the altered midi and producing screwed up results. Oddly, the MIDI gets recorded and plays back properly, but when playing it's screwed up.

    No AUv3 plugin is going to help with that, at least for live playing.

    Damn! So the only DAW left if i want to record automation from a controller is logic? Well yeah and LP

    Well, to clarify, if we're talking about MIDI, then the automation from the controller will record and play back fine. It'll just sound screwy when you play it live while recording.

    So i have to learn LP then. I got a ipad as a portable solution and digital hub for my hardware (a modular and drummachines). I got a motu ultralight mk5 to go with it. LP is very much to learn for this. Yes i like to do some simple arengments from the soundfiles i record in AUM.

    You could take a look at Audio Evolution Mobile. It has a kind of weird workflow, but it's a very solid DAW.

    Automation is MIDI (?)

    Well i dident find and plugin that did what i wanted anyhow (sending negative values) to make Crossfades between channels. And busses/aux

    With aum its possible to invert values. Havent triedit yet im working out the basics.

    I will give cubasis a go though. Its nice with a timeline when all is needed is to drag/drop my soundfiles and draw fades.

  • wimwim

    @BoxKnob said:

    @wim said:

    @BoxKnob said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    @BoxKnob : you might want to change the title of your post to indicate that it is about Cubasis.

    I try to do that sorry first post

    @wim said:
    Cubasis has an issue with MIDI Plugins and anything other than notes. The original MIDI leaks through, combining with the altered midi and producing screwed up results. Oddly, the MIDI gets recorded and plays back properly, but when playing it's screwed up.

    No AUv3 plugin is going to help with that, at least for live playing.

    Damn! So the only DAW left if i want to record automation from a controller is logic? Well yeah and LP

    Well, to clarify, if we're talking about MIDI, then the automation from the controller will record and play back fine. It'll just sound screwy when you play it live while recording.

    So i have to learn LP then. I got a ipad as a portable solution and digital hub for my hardware (a modular and drummachines). I got a motu ultralight mk5 to go with it. LP is very much to learn for this. Yes i like to do some simple arengments from the soundfiles i record in AUM.

    You could take a look at Audio Evolution Mobile. It has a kind of weird workflow, but it's a very solid DAW.

    Automation is MIDI (?)

    Not exactly, but unless you're moving knobs in the app itself, you need MIDI to produce the automation. You haven't mentioned where you're trying to record this automation from. If you're tweaking knobs on a controller then it is sending MIDI to Cubasis and Cubasis is recording it as MIDI CCs.

    Well i dident find and plugin that did what i wanted anyhow (sending negative values) to make Crossfades between channels. And busses/aux

    Inverting the MIDI would be easy from a Mozaic or Streambyter app. But not worth doing if the way Cubasis ends up handling it doesn't work the way you need it to.

    With aum its possible to invert values. Havent triedit yet im working out the basics.

    True but you can't record that automation as I'm sure you know.

    I will give cubasis a go though. Its nice with a timeline when all is needed is to drag/drop my soundfiles and draw fades.

    And ... not to belabor the point or confuse you ... when you draw fades in Cubasis' automation tools ... yes, there is no midi involved. 😉

  • wimwim

    @BoxKnob - I happened to stumble across a Mozaic script I forgot about that can do this inversion for you ... Cubasis bugs notwithstanding.

    https://patchstorage.com/midi-scaler-v1-0/

  • wimwim

    There is also the very powerful KQ MIDI Modulate app. It has the advantage for Cubasis that it can run standalone so that the conversion of something like a MIDI controller can happen before the MIDI hits Cubasis, thus bypassing the Cubasis problem.

    I find it difficult to understand how it works myself. It's very powerful though.

  • wimwim

    I just tested KQ MIDI Modulate, it it does work with a bit of setup if loaded in standalone. Once it's running and routed properly, it's transparent.

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