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A new AI album dedicated to my friends here at the Forum
Hey everyone,
MadeOfWax here.
Some of you may remember me as an active forum member.
I wanted to share an album of my old music remade with AI dedicated to the people who inspired and encouraged me to share when I was trying to find my way
I know some of you don’t respect anyone who uses AI. That was made abundantly clear.
But I hope my old friends will enjoy this
@GeoTony , @Paulieworld , @McD , @sevenape , @LinearLineman and so many others who listened to my weird little tunes and shared kind words and feedback
You can still find most of the original tracks here on the forum
This place was like home for me
Take Care
Mac
https://aethrmusik.com/share/release/8e08a9b5-e8a5-4a93-9500-1ffae5bde38c
Comments
Hey mate. It's been a while. How've you been? Hope you're well.
Addressing the elephant in the room - I love that you dedicated an album to your friends here. ❤️ However, I hate to be the party pooper, but I probably won't give the reimagined music a listen. I'm just not a huge fan of AI generated content.
Now that doesn't mean I don't respect you as an artist. I know you're capable of making great music like you used to.
I'm just wondering why use AI instead of coming up with new human-made tunes for us to enjoy in a DAW or other music creation alp? ☺️ Or even a new human-made tune or two?
If it's a case of worrying about sounding "imperfect", I'm of the mindset that I'd rather enjoy "imperfections" over stale robotic stuff. That's just me personally though. Others' mileage may vary.
And I'm not trying to be judgmental.
Far from it mate. In fact, the most sanctimonious vocal anti-AI pain in the ass asked to remove himself from the forum, much to my relief at least. 😂
Anyways, I hope you do make a full return here someday and can show us more original human-made tunes.
Much Love, Brother
Jim
Hi Mac! Great to hear from you. I’ve been away for a while too, but I had to start posting again. As it turns out, I’m not gonna die after all. Always get a second opinion! One doctor says I’m a dead man walking. The other says I’m in pretty good shape… for my age. That makes the odds 50/50. I can live with that. Follow the money.
These tracks are killer! Back in the 80s and 90s I was with a band called Current. We did jazz/rock/fusion. Insanely complicated and challenging stuff. Unfortunately nobody would hire us! Eventually we started doing covers and made a few bucks, but it just wasn’t as fun.
AI is just a tool to be used to express yourself. Don’t pay any attention to anybody that says otherwise. Imagine loggers back in the 1800s. I’m sure many resisted those newfangled chain saws! Use whatever you have to make music that you enjoy. I hope you will pair these up with some wild and crazy video.
I hope we can collaborate again sometime. That would be rockin’ good!
@jwmmakerofmusic
I think I share this sentiment for AI use across the board, be it coding, music, art etc. It comes down to the ideas and implementation. Personally I find prompting etc boring for making music (why not go realtime and play? Waiting for music renders sucks) but if someone wants to do it and comes up with something cool, then so be it.
@jwmmakerofmusic
Good to see you.
I appreciate your honesty. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether I agree or not.
Personally I have found that by giving ordinary people the ability to express themselves in a way that makes them happy, they truly open themselves up.
My wife has made 2 videos and released a song. We’re closer now than ever before. Working together has helped us communicate like never before.
I wish you well and hope someday you will give it a listen, but you can still find the old tracks here and on my SoundCloud account
Be well old friend
@AudioGus
The fun part for me was seeing old songs come to life. Like sending your tracks to an incredibly talented sound engineer or having an amazing band cover your songs. The work I put in originally is still in there. It just has a polished sound now. If you compare my old music to the AI versions you can still hear my creative passion.
Appreciate you stopping by and I wish you well in everything you do
Mac
@Paulieworld
I wouldn’t be anywhere without you Paul. You let me experiment with your work when I had barely any idea what I was doing 😂
I’m forever grateful for your friendship.
I’m hoping with time I’ll have more Creative Partnerships that will allow me to do more of the work I want to do. Right now Lena and I are working as a team, trying to make both of our dreams come true.
I’m happy to hear you are in better health. I do hope we have another chance to collaborate 👍🤘🔥
Keep in touch and we’ll see what life has in store for us
Take care my friend
Mac
Hey Mac, you too!
If you could point out some before and after for context that would be cool. I use AI image tools for work all the time and do enjoy it in that context. There are things on paper for music that I would be into but just haven't dug enough or maybe it just isn't there yet for me. I love the idea of generating sound libraries but alas things are bit too smeary or hard to control in that department compared to images.
@AudioGus
Before
After
https://aethrmusik.com/share/track/e6068f37-1bb4-4363-aa92-60f4ae097c36
Before
After
https://aethrmusik.com/share/track/71111143-385d-4570-af46-848cc6922bed
Ahh cool, thanks for posting that. Definitely does sound punched up. See, now you could have just lied and said you were working with a new producer. Embrace the true spirit of AI!
There’s certainly no shortage of bad actors in the AI space
But like any other group of people, there are kind genuine, generous folks who share their experiences, knowledge, and friendship
The person who started AethrMusik is one of them
He has a hybrid workflow, records his vocals and builds tracks in a traditional DAW
He’s also building a game, had a movie shown at Cannes, and is a genuinely good dude
That's fair. I'm just a fan of making one's own music and art. Coding I feel is a different thing altogether. In the right hands, an experienced developer can use AI as a sort of "spell check" system for finding bugs and such. I used to dabble with AI music generation two years ago I admit, but only to use for sampling in HipHop and other genres similar to that rather than generating something and calling it "my own". And I used to use AI to generate album covers I'd slap text overtop of.
However, back in January 2025, that aforementioned santimonious pain in the ass who asked to remove himself from the forum got on my back about using AI. He made plenty of valid points, but his delivery was that of a judgemental "concern troll". 😂 But, seeing how AI generation affects those in the creative industry is what ultimately made me turn my nose up at AI generation of art and music in particular.
But, you're more than just an ordinary person.
You are an extraordinary musician.
That's actually a nice thing to be honest.
Then again, I don't have a wife or girlfriend currently, am "married" to my music, and like to keep it that way. 
I know, I know.
I will check your "comparisons" between the "before" and "after" above in a second so I can make up my own mind.
You too, mate.
Just talked with my friend that created AethrMusik.com
If you don't mind hanging with AI folks, it's open to music of all kinds
It doesn't matter if you made it traditionally or with AI
All are welcome 🤘
Thanks Mac… Old is a given and friend is something I really appreciate 🙏
Re AI, pass me a fence to sit on…
I can see and hear good and bad in AI…
Used for good 😊
Otherwise ☹️
If you actually listen to the music on Mac’s album it’s pretty darned good (imho)… thanks for posting Mac 👍
Bill (Saunders) who used to post here and is another lovely human being that has been frightened away did a similar thing with a track I contributed to…
This is the original
This is the AI version… rubbish viola playing but as in Mac’s music well worth listening to 😊
https://violetremedy.bandcamp.com/track/tunnels
as an aside Mac’s videos on YT are well worth watching!
Moving away from AI, Bill is still producing great music with a great quirky view of life on SC here https://soundcloud.com/billsaunders9876
and you should check out Joseph’s (another long lost member) sublime music on YT such as this…
The "after" tracks sound fuller, but the "before" tracks sound cleaner. That said, I prefer the "before" tracks. It shows off your natural talents as a musician better than any AI can do.
Just my two cents, mate.
Those AI remixes do sound great. Running Out of Time really did sound like something that went from “idea in my head” to “potential soundtrack”. The remixed version reminds me of the Danmaku Unlimited 3 soundtrack.
I’m curious of the process you used. Any insights on the workflow?
I use Suno. Upload the audio track and set the audio influence to around 70 to 75 percent, Weirdness to 35 to 40 percent, and style prompt influence to sound 40 to 50 percent. Generate, check it out, change the percentages if necessary and regenerate
I appreciate that. I just enjoy hearing how my stuff is reinterpreted. I understand it isn’t for everyone but I have a blast with it.
I’ll definitely check that out later GeoTony.
I appreciate your comments and feedback on my videos so much.
If you ever feel like joining AethrMusik, give me a heads up so I can follow you 😁
That's alright, mate.
Have you given Suno Studio / multitrack stuff a try?
I’m glad it was meaningful for you, but I’m going to pass. To me this is a bit like showing up to a woodworking forum with a chair designed from a prompt and made by a CNC machine. It may look good like a nice chair an all. And you might have chosen that style, but the thing I’m interested in is the the craft, you know? With mistakes and flubs stains, nicks and all that.
With music, I feel the same way. I’d rather hear someone’s imperfect human track than a polished AI redo. Not because I think you’re a bad person for using it, but because I don’t want to train my attention toward more AI-generated music.
Already youtube is for sure slipping in some AI songs when I'm not paying attention. No offence, dude
I haven't. I only have the pro plan. Perhaps some day.
As it is I use my iPad to edit things out and I'm looking at doing more with stems to build songs like I would with samples.
No offense taken
we all have limited time and if something doesn't speak to you then it's your choice to make.
Appreciate your honesty
You're among an awesome group of people here. I can't tell you how much the support and friendship has meant to me over the years
Take care and be well
Mac
My wife and I always enjoyed watching videos of animals. Lately many videos are of fake AI animal encounters. As soon as we realize it's a fake video it ceases to be enjoyable. We don't watch animal videos anymore. AI has taken the joy out of it.
It's like listening to someone tell an interesting story about a concert they attended. If you find out they were lying, they were never there, the story becomes meaningless.
AI steals meaning and joy and any expectation of honesty. That's no small thing.
Even on this forum I've noticed the creeping acceptance of AI. I am now suspicious of all music posted. I'm listening at Bandcamp from now on where AI is banned.
AI is probably fun to experiment with, and there's nothing we can do to stop the competitive stripping of humanity out of art, so do whatever pleases you. Just admit to, and understand, what you are stealing from the rest of us.
Yah next staycation I am thinking of giving it a shot. If I could upload stems and make variations and morphs of them that could be cool.
Btw, got a total KMFDM and Testament vibe off a couple of your tracks, very cool!
If that is how you feel, I can't imagine anything I have to say could change your mind
I'm aware that for some people anything generated by AI is less worthy of their attention
I won't try to dissuade you
I'm actually grateful that AI is requiring people to question the things they see online
Anything that encourages critical thinking when consuming media is a win in my book
But it takes all kinds of people to make a world. We might not agree on this issue but I can see your perspective.
Be well and enjoy what makes you happy
Mac
Thank you for listening
Testament was a band l enjoyed and the few KMFDM videos I caught back in the day were awesome
Hope your staycation is a good time 👍
I'm thinking a good idea is to make a subforum titled "AI Stuff" so to separate the wheat from the chaff. 😂 That way the AI folks can go nuts and leave the main Creations section alone. This way there's no confusion.
My music in the Creations section is 100% human made, whether made for my own personal enjoyment or for client work. You needn't worry about my music being generated. I list what music app I used to create what I made. Last month it was mostly Gadget. This month it's FL Studio Mobile. Late last year it was mostly Auxy Studio.
I'll ask the mods to see what they think. ❤️
I appreciate the thought.
I don't want to stir up controversy
I'm happy to visit on occasion and I won't be posting more music unless it's something I make on my iPad the old fashioned way
I am grateful for the time that I have spent here. I have a new home now but I'll always think fondly of this place and the awesome people here.
Take care
Mac
Sounds good to me!
Your human-made music is indeed fantastic. I know you got the musical chops to pull off amazing pieces.
You too mate.